I have to agree with pav as well. But it's a slippery slope in saying that. What I mean is I love hunting with a recurve that's all I've known. Honestly I never even shot a compound or a crossbow but at the same time every gun opener I'm there slug gun in hand. So now since I limit myself with a 15-20 yard shot tops in bow season but open it up to 150+ with a gun does that take woodsman ship away? I won't knock a guy for using a hpr if it is legalized but at the same time you can't say it'll be hard to get within 400 yards of a mature buck. That's shooting in my opinion not hunting at that point.