And John, if your approach is a no valid reason approach, then would you also suggest that if folks wish to, they be allowed to snare deer, hunt from a vehicle or pursue other methods that there isn't real data or reasons to restrict? Not trying to argue at all, just trying to understand if you believe deer management should pretty much become such based upon having to have a reason for not allowing something.


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