Yes I agree but I worked in two different sporting goods stores for close to 10 years and every year those guys came in and I had I hear that. A few heated discussions with a few of those clowns almost leading to my dismissal. I'm not justifying it kind I like I don't justify drinking and driving but I can't stop it, guess I worded it wrong. I don't condone or agree with it but my opinion on what someone else doesn't shouldn't mean anything to them. Idiots are idiots plain an simple. But in the eyes or the non hunting community that drunken idiot hunter is no different than someone who does it the right way. I'll try an keep this on topic now, I see no need for center fire rifles and I if passes will not choose to use one. But Dnr will follow the money and we will see it pass.