I think the issue is that a lot of non hunters aren't opposed to hunting if it is done from what they idealize as a traditional sense. But, be there little mistake that many of the non hunting, but not anti hunting, folks very much embrace an idealism of fairness and in general animal welfare. What hunters have to decide is where that line in the sand is and recognize that if they don't side with the non hunters who aren't anti hunting, they will push those people towards the anti hunting crowd. I have never believed in the "we need to all stick together" idealism because I do believe there is a line in the sand on many hunting issues that just shouldn't be. But, that's my personal view and I certainly understand the anxiety others have when they see hunters being split.