I do think that in many situations the tone and tenor of that activity on these farms has changed from what once seemed like an outright argument that it was hunting to one now that it is more so simply killing. At least in the smaller facilities. Clearly, there seems to be more forthrightness from the operators then there used to be. Many businesses finesse the "story" and often use the "they can't prove the disease issue" to try to diminish the potential negative. In that sense, from a business perspective, I don't really see the message from the operators any different from BP or other oil companies or utilities or industries that damage the environment but claim that it just isn't so. The issue of whether this is an acceptable societal activity is where it will eventually be decided. It won't be hunters but instead non hunters to influence the outcome. Just like the livestock operators pushing the bill here in Indiana to make it illegal for secretive filming of their properties because they don't want public opinion influenced from filming of bad situations in the operating to influence the general public.