Ferb, I agree with what you're saying also. I honestly don't like that I have to lease but in my experience its the only way I could have a quality hunt. I had a great place in Parke 12 years ago. over 400 acres but the landowner allowed other guys to hunt. after getting stands stolen and getting walked in on too many times on beautiful November mornings I had had enough. i'd rather lease 200 acres than hunt public or even private where the landowner lets other guys hunt. its nice to have something that is yours. it sucks that you now have to lease but its either adapt or deal with the consequenses