Jb, I totally agree with you. Especially the part on the youth "hunting". I posted basically the same thing on another Indiana hunting forum. I begged to go and was never allowed until 12 yrs old and had some woodmanship skills of my own rather than being only a trigger man. To me it was much more satisfying and I can't help but wonder how many of these kids going out and killing big game now at around 5 will still have the passion for it when they are older. Something earned is always more valuable then something that is handed to you, imo.