and thus the deer kill would rise again....Ive hunted Texas with my .270, killed deer to 275-325 yds with it(which is the extreme range with it)....the idea of the slug guns and MLs and the pcr's is safety and closer ranges, not 400 yd shots with a .308 or .300 win. ........I can make those, I do it with my 22-250 on woodchucks....I was a USMC Sniper, long range shots are not hard to do with the right firearm.. Now, if those calibers would be limited to single shots like the Ruger One or a Handi Rifle, you wouldnt have some guy rat tat tatting the wood/fields on a running deer with a flat top AR style....yea, I know, there are some that do it with slug guns...