I know what your saying. I live very close to Refuge an am in there everyday pretty much Jan-Sept either driving through or running in there. I am off for 2 weeks for Christmas an I use to set in there all day everyday an by the end of the 2 weeks would of seen 150-200 deer. Then EHD hit an that December I set for 10 days 12 hours a day an saw 0. I hardly ever see a deer in there anymore.