I finally got in touch with the gun smith via telephone and explained to him what happened.
I think I need to further explain the situation to everyone. I purchased this rifle in 1973 sometime in the spring. I used it for years without any problems other than when it was loaded I could not get the safety when the gun had a shell in the chamber and it was cocked and ready to fire. I had to eject shells while the safety was off to empty the gun.
Remington had a law suit filed against them for this defective design and Remington recalled this model some time ago.
I had not been using this rifle for years and it sat on my gun rack all this time.
Now this last few years I decided to get back into hunting and while searching the web I discovered that this rifle had been recalled. I found out that Remington had certain gun shops that were certified by Remington to do this repair. The repair consisted of replacing the old trigger with a new Remington trigger that would allow the safety to be engaged while the gun was cocked and ready to fire.
So I took my gun to a Certified gun smith and ask them to do the recall repair work.
When I picked up the gun I noticed that it didn't work right when I got it home and tested it further. I noticed that when I took the unloaded gun and cocked the bolt and move the safety to the fire position that the gun fired. I found out that the trigger was making contact with a metal screw that went from one side of the rifle stock to the other in the area where the trigger was installed. I think that the new trigger is a bit larger than the old one and didn't exactly fit property. Then I also noticed that two of the washers were missing where the bolts held the trigger and trigger guard into the stock. I have taken this gun apart many times in the past but never adjusted anything. I just unscrewed the two bolts that hold the trigger in the stock and then replaced that. There is a spring inside the magazine that's a bugger to get back into place when reassembling the gun. Other that that it's just nuts and bolts.
Without the washers in place the trigger was hitting the trigger guard and making the trigger pull very hard. I modified the trigger and then installed washers and now the trigger clears the trigger guard easily and the rifle seems to work OK now.
Now I could take it back and have the gunsmith certified what happened and make sure that it's going to work OK. But I have a rubber mallet and will preform a few bump tests to ensure that the gun won't fire if bumped accidental. I did this to an extent and the gun has not fired unless I take it off safe and pull the trigger. Moving the gun from safe to fire has not resulted in the gun firing anymore. I also modified the screw with a dremel tool to give the new trigger more clearance so that the trigger does not tough this brass screw anymore. If that new trigger stays where it's suppose to then everything will be fine.
I won't take this gun out in the field until I get it tested by another gun smith.
I actually purchased this gun from Rajo's. I asked the guys at Rajo's about doing this repair work and they said that they would have to send it off to Remington to get that work done! I really didn't want to be without that gun that long. I think that it would have taken a few months to get it fixed and back to me. That's why I didn't take it to Rajo's at the time. Now if Rago's could do the work in house and give me a quicker turnaround I would have let them do the work. Right now I have other things I have to get before I can really do any hunting so there is still time to make sure the gun is going to be OK.
Originally posted by jkd:
I think I would have called Remington directly when you first noticed the malfunction and sent the gun to them for repair or replacement. It doesn't sound like the local gunsmith got things reassembled right. Given a recall situation, I don't think I would have taken the gun apart myself at that point, although I understand your frustration for sure...
I have an old Remington Model 14 pump rifle that was my grandfathers. At one point my uncle had it in his gun case and I asked him if I could have it and if my grandfather hunted much with it. He said that he used to hunt with it, but there was something wrong with it, but he didn't know. So I inspected the barrel and cleaned/lubed it, and picked up some ammo for it.
Went out to a field where I had set up a target about 30 yards away, and a buddy of mine was standing to my left and slightly behind me... I'm right handed, so as I pumped the first round into the gun, the barrel was pointed up and about 45 degrees between him and where I was facing... racked the slide forward and BBBBOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!
Scared the crap out of both of us!!!!
I was thinking stuck firing pin, but on inspecting the bolt face, the pin was not sticking out. I put a drop of gun oil into the firing pin hole, and ran the action several times... put in another round, holding the gun pointing down toward the ground a few feet in front of us... KABOOOM!!!!
I took it to two different gunsmiths back then (one at the old Emroe's in Indy), and both "worked" on it and "fixed" it... and it still does the same thing. It now rests in a locked metal cabinet gunsafe at my dad's with a wire-tie tag on it that reads "gun unsafe - do not try to load or it will fire on it's own"...
I won't take any gun into the field that I'm not 100% sure is right, as it's just not worth the risk of injuring/killing someone around you or yourself...
Call Remington and ask for a new firearm...