Well you guys are just full of boot "sunshine". I'm looking to get something in the 1500 gram range, or close to it, as the toes just won't stay warm anymore with the blood pressure meds, and old age. The other site suggested that the Muck boots are heavy and wear out quickly but are supposedly warmer than the Lacross which are supposedly lighter and wear longer. Geez, who knows. Until this thread, the waterfowl guys had me leaning towards Lacross but now I'm rethinking the Muck boots.