HH I read that denim usually to thick and don't work that well but that is what I read I have no experience with these sidelocks. Dad told me they had some kind of patching that was strip and they started ball and cut off with knife is what I was doin. Think I might try the jeans this week. Here is a pic of my group center punch was a fluke I believe
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