The conference committee vieo is about 11 minutes long:


http://iga.in.gov/information/archives/2016/video/committee_conference_committee_for_hb_1231/

They will still be legal. This bill does not repeal 312 IAC 9-3-3 subsection (d)(4).

That logic would imply that if my property does not have a "No Trespassing" sign then I'm OK with it.

I agree. I liked the purple paint option. A **** of a lot easier and cheaper than posting signs everywhere.

Conference Committee report: https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-92de30fb

That point was brought up in the committee hearing also, I think they felt the Senate didn't like it so the author took it out.

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-08d343ce

*CC123103*
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE REPORT
DIGEST FOR EHB 1231
Citations Affected:
IC 14-22-2.
Synopsis:
Deer hunting. Provides that certain rifles may be used to hunt deer on privately
owned land during the firearms seasons beginning after June 30, 2016, and ending before January 1, 2020. Requires the department of natural resources (DNR) to report on the impact of the use of rifles to hunt deer. Authorizes the use of a handgun that fires a commercially available bullet of 10 millimeters in diameter to hunt deer.
(This conference committee report does the
following: (1) Authorizes the use of rifles during the firearms season for hunting deer
rather than requiring the director of the DNR to adopt rules to establish a rifle season. (2)
Deletes provisions restricting the rifle season to southern Indiana. (3) Provides that the use
of a rifle is permitted on privately owned land rather than on state owned hunting areas.
(4) Requires the rifle to be chambered for certain cartridges. (5) Changes the restriction
on magazine size to a restriction on the number of cartridges that a hunter using a rifle
may possess while hunting deer. (6) Deletes provisions authorizing the use of purple marks
to post real property against trespassers.)

What is the next step then? Another vote now or is this final?

Direct from Senate and House conference committee reports:

So, we're back to private land only, but it's state-wide.

No more 10ft rule.

No more purple paint.

10mm handguns allowed.

A wide variety of .300 rifles allowed, and a few specific calibers.

No FMJ's.

I think this is a fairly decent start to widening the rifle offerings in the state.

Has to go back to House and Senate for a full vote.

If they are allowing 10mm handguns then why not the .40 SW...or .45 ACP....both of them are capable of doing the job at the range a 10mm does. To me this is nothing more than idiots making laws to satisfy wealthy campaign donors......but isn't that politics as usual..??h.h.

HB1231 conference committee report passed the house 84-5

Looks like HB 1231 is up for vote in the Senate sometime tomorrow afternoon. Session starts at 1:30 PM. Scroll down the page a little at the following link:

web page

243 is OK but not various other 257, 260, 6.5, 270,280 7mm, etc. How do you allow 243 and then jump over all these excellent calibers to 30 cal? Weird and arbitrary list to me. No big bores either like 45-70, seems like that caliber was named last year, guess it lost it's luster.

lots of great deer rounds NOT on the list. makes no sense....

I agree, but let's not look a gift horse in the mouth. The rest can come later...

A CO going have fun when it comes to checking someone with a legal rifle for Deer Hunting.... Espicaly if the claim there coyote hunting also..... lol ... SMH

No different than how it is now though.

Right now all a CO needs to do is measure/check the case length and bullet diameter to see if your rifle is legal...... are you saying that's all they will need to do if this HPR bill passes?

I think he is saying all they have to do now is say they are coyote hunting if they are breaking a deer hunting law.

Ok...that wasn't my point

If the bill passes there will be more info needed then just measuring the case and bullet as they do now!

Agreed, plus hunters are allowed more than ten cartridges if they are not using the newly added guns.

So what is the real issue with this proposed change?

I'm not a proponent necessarily of the HPRs but keeping a list of 5 legal cartridges seems a heck of a lot easier than dealing with all the PCR wildcat verbage that is already in existence.

With the current legal rifles now a CO can make two measurements a know if your legal... They Don't have to count amount of ammo you have also... All that may soon change!

BTW....all the current rifles in use will still be legal with the add on of the New HPR rounds and there restrictions!

Yeah it all seems silly to me. If I were king my rule would be single shots .243 and larger to include shotguns. Carry as much ammo as you want... still wouldn't be spraying and praying with a single shot but I'm sure that wouldn't sit well with most.

Well I missed the Senate vote, but it says the bill was adopted by the Senate, so I'm assuming that means it passed.

Passed the Senate. On to the governors desk now.

And the precedent has now been set for how Indiana's hunting laws will be established. No point in even having a NRC from here forward.

The precedent was set before this bill.

Any link to final wording? Still state wide, private only and only certain calibers?

Yes. Go to the bill's page and look at the committee report for the final version,

link??

found it

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-08d343ce

) This section applies to a hunting
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season beginning after June 30, 2016, and ending before January
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1, 2020.
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(b) A hunter may use a rifle during the firearms season to hunt
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deer subject to the following:
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(1) The use of a rifle is permitted only on privately owned
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land.
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(2) The rifle must have a barrel length of at least sixteen (16)
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inches.
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(3) The rifle must be chambered for one (1) of the following
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cartridges:
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(A) .243.
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(B) .30-30.
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(C) .300.
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(D) .30-06.
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(E) .308.
CC123103/DI 92 2016
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(4) A hunter may not possess more than ten (10) cartridges for
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the rifle while hunting deer under this section.
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(5) The rifle must meet any other requirements established by
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the department.
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(c) The use of a full metal jacketed bullet to hunt deer is
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unlawful.
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(d) The department shall report on the impact of the use of rifles
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to hunt deer under this section to the governor and, in an electronic
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format under IC 5-14-6, the general assembly before February 15,
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2020.
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(e) This section expires June 30, 2020.

That makes no sense at all.... :rolleyes: Once again, Indiana to be a laughing stock of deer regulations.

AR10 it is then...with a low cap mag of course.

.300 huh? Is that Win mag, Weatherby or H&H, or maybe a .300 Savage? Seems like lots of states can allow a baseline cartridge and go up from there without enumeration of individually acceptable cartridges. This is reminiscent of California's approved gun list and it's unintentionally vague, I'm sure. Kentucky has verbiage of any centerfire cartridge......stop it at 243, whatever. Well at least 10 mm handguns made the approval list, reckon a higher up has one just itching to go all Razor Dobbs with it? I mean who was pushing for that one......

Maybe they meant 300 whisper.....I think there's an underpowered round that goes by that. Or maybe a 300 blackout? Some of you younger guys help us decipher this mess. What is a legal 300?

That maybe true......But the IDNR was not involved!!

Got a example of what your saying?