Dew, can you not read. in the FUTURE it is pure speculation. You may wish it not to be but it is what it is. I attend one event where the scoring takes place and I do believe the number of deer scored at that event was down. I don't talk to John about the overall yearly numbers. I did though check in a head that was eventually scored by CK that have made Boone and the guy said it didn't want to enter it. So, my point was and is that the Hoosier Record Book is not a scientific measurement of buck harvest of whatever kind in Indiana. Sorry that doesn't fit well with your agenda. And the documents are real time only to the extend that hunters wish to have their heads scored or entered into the books. As such, it is real time only in the sense of non scientific analysis.