Never caught a song dog back then only foxes. Did catch a silver fox once. Sorry I sold it, but those were college days and needed the $$$. I was taught by an old trapper named Johnny Warman. He caught more fur than anyone I knew. Showed me the ways of the old timers. He never set a hole or post set. All path sets. He even caught a bobcat in the hills behind Hanover around 1979. ICO let him keep a foot but took the hide. No comment on the Reinholt/Delph remark. HAHA