Originally posted by nickgsp2: Yaz do they keep slipping off the driver about half way in the ground
Yes!!!! I see you've had the same problem. Pizzes me off....get one 1/2 way down, then you have to TRY to pull it back up through frozen ground!!!! Its because they aren't heavy enough steel, and the tips bend down, letting the driver slip off. I even use the driver to make a pilot hole, and they still do it. I've got so many, I have to use them up. I'll just use them in early season and on coon sets, etc. However, when I start after coyotes in January next year, I will have some Wolffangs.....Take a look at them and the driver. A lot different design. They WILL drive through frozen ground. The dis-advantage is....They are heavier, and you almost have to dig em to get them back.