Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/06/2014 12:55 PM
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bassbum
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Buddy checked my yote traps this morning and called me at work to tell me I caught a yote that was so red it looked like a fox. Stopped on my way home to pick it up and he was right. Next stop was at my neighbor who does Taxidermy work who ended up buying it from me. Only had it for about 10 minutes and didnt even get a picture.
69 coons 19 possuums 6 coyotes 21 muskrats 3 skunks 1 mouse 1squirrel
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/06/2014 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper: You used up all yer Karma on that pistol buck... Very possible! Keep the pictures coming and congrats to everyone on their catches. h.h.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/06/2014 04:44 PM
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Yaz
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Originally posted by bassbum: I would say your pan tension is around 2 lbs.....lol Correct! for coyotes should be a minimum 3lb. I set mine a tad more. I still don't ever remember catching a rabbit!
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/07/2014 09:40 AM
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/07/2014 10:27 AM
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Nice yote, good catch! h.h. All mine were empty again......nothing messy with them at all. Im using HT Top Dog bait and their yote pee. Not sure why but I do have a deer carcass staked out and they might be on it. My pee post set up is 20 feet from the deer but no takers. All my mink set are empty too. So far Im disappointed in myself as a trapper. Oh well, sooner or later something stupid has got to stumble into one of my sets. :rolleyes: h.h.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/07/2014 04:52 PM
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Yaz
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Nice catch Gilly!!! Your on them now!!!! You DO have something to check pan tension with…..You just don't know it. However, it appears that you have them pretty close since you are catching. If you have been getting deep, or above the pad catches, then you are close on the tension. If you get toe catches, or are missing, then they are too light. If a rabbit or squirrel sets them off….too light. Two methods, one long, one short. Take a 2x4, and cut it to length to weight a tad over 3 pound. A typical dry pine 2x4 will weigh approximately 1.6lb/foot. So cut one 2ft. 4" and that should be close. If you have a scales, actually weigh it. Long method. tighten the pan tension screw and set the trap. LIGHTLY set the back edge of the board on the center of the pan. If it does not go off, lighten the the screw a little at a time till it does. Short method/AKA scare the chit out of you method. Tighten the pan enough you know it will hold the board. Might have to have someone steady it. Then, reaching under the jaw (its tricky), start loosening the screw until it goes off. make sure you keep the tools UNDER the jaw!!! It really helps to put the base of the trap in a bench vise. Tighten it down on the base plate really tight, and the trap will not jump.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/08/2014 04:01 AM
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thanks for the info, I will have to check mine. I always set the pans so they "almost fall under their own weight" No idea what this translates to in terms of pounds. Originally posted by Yaz: Nice catch Gilly!!! Your on them now!!!! You DO have something to check pan tension with…..You just don't know it. However, it appears that you have them pretty close since you are catching. If you have been getting deep, or above the pad catches, then you are close on the tension. If you get toe catches, or are missing, then they are too light. If a rabbit or squirrel sets them off….too light.
Two methods, one long, one short. Take a 2x4, and cut it to length to weight a tad over 3 pound. A typical dry pine 2x4 will weigh approximately 1.6lb/foot. So cut one 2ft. 4" and that should be close. If you have a scales, actually weigh it. Long method. tighten the pan tension screw and set the trap. LIGHTLY set the back edge of the board on the center of the pan. If it does not go off, lighten the the screw a little at a time till it does.
Short method/AKA scare the chit out of you method. Tighten the pan enough you know it will hold the board. Might have to have someone steady it. Then, reaching under the jaw (its tricky), start loosening the screw until it goes off. make sure you keep the tools UNDER the jaw!!! It really helps to put the base of the trap in a bench vise. Tighten it down on the base plate really tight, and the trap will not jump.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/08/2014 06:06 AM
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Here has been my thinking on a heavier pan tension for coyotes….and this is just me, and it works for me. Others catch coyotes with "hair" triggers, and anything in between. #1. When I go to all the effort to make a coyote set, I want a coyote. I do not want coons, or other by catch. To me, its too much work to have another critter set the trap off, or get caught and tear up a set. I still do on occasion catch a grinner or coon on a heavier pan. But I also limit my by-catch by the locations I set in. I do not set in areas where rabbits, squirrels, coons, etc frequent. If I feel I can certainly catch a coyote in a spot, but feel there is a good possibility of a coon or grinner, I'll make a couple sets for those close by to hopefully head them off.. #2. Primarily, the reason I set a heavier pan tension on coyote sets is I want them to fully commit to the set. A coyote may pass by a set several times before he decides to investigate. Most times they approach with caution, and don't just go running in. This is especially true of the older coyotes that have a couple trapping seasons under the belts. When one approaches, they step gingerly. If you have a light pan tension, this will fire the trap before the coyote has decided its ok to put his weight on that spot. At best, you get a toe catch, and just hope it holds him. If he's really jumpy, you get a miss, and an educated coyote. With the heavier pan tension, you can get a wary coyote on the set, and if he steps lightly on the set, and is not comfortable, he will just back out, and nots suspect anything. That is why it is important to bed a trap rock solid. If he gains confidence, and continues to work a set, or comes back at a later date, he will feel safe, and likely commit. WHen they put their full weight on the pan before it breaks over, he can NOT pull out fast enough, resulting in a good above the pad catch. #3. I typically do not start coyote trapping until the weather is at its worse for it. Freezing and thawing as everybody knows is a coyote trappers nightmare. Maybe some have noticed it, or had it happen and just thought it was a critter. But the freezing and thawing action in the ground WILL cause a trap to fire. Particularly, if the ground is really wet prior to freezing. A heavier pan tension will not eliminate this, but certainly helps a bunch. I'll get off my soap box now!!! Hope you guys are after the coons good this week. They should be moving good!!! I was trying to sneak out of the stand last night down a cow path, with no light, and head down to avoid being seen by the deer in the field. Apparently the big 65lb coon that was coming up the path was doing the same. He didn't appreciate about being stepped on, and let me know about with a blood curdling snarl!!!! Bout pooped my pant!!!
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/08/2014 07:46 AM
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After a fall loaded with out-of-state hunts, I'm finally back home for good, and so I got a few Coyote snares out last week. I can tell from the trail cams there are plenty of yippers running around this year. Hoping for a tall stack of 'em by the end of winter! It always amazes me when they manage to get their head and both front legs through a 8"-10" snare loop. This female wouldn't stop barking when she saw me coming.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/08/2014 08:44 AM
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Thanks guys I hope we all keep whittling at the coons and yotes to help keep their numbers in check. This thread is a great motivator to trap fur. Also trail cam pics like this one I got in early August keeps me motivated too. That's a fawn leg in his mouth.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/08/2014 10:28 AM
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nice catch stick. 2 coons and grinner for us today.
Wednesday I am gang setting an old gown up farmhouse and barns. Throwing all we got at em for 3-4 days.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/09/2014 02:44 AM
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I must have a bunch of smart azz yotes cause I cant seem to get one into a trap. Im heading to HT today and get some "cant fail" lures..... h.h.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/09/2014 05:57 AM
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Awesome catches. Doing well and good job on getting the kids out there too.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/09/2014 06:34 AM
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nice pictures Bass, great to see the youngsters getting to go along with you.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/09/2014 07:13 AM
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Very nice bassbum! And that light coyote is a beauty.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/09/2014 10:12 AM
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Thanks everyone. I will have to give a big part of the credit to the 2 girls in the picture. They will not let me slack off. If its there day off from school they are with me. I set traps Sunday from 8 am till 3 pm and the only complaint I heard from them was when I told them I was done for the day. There first question off the bus is what did we catch today. I will admit my deer hunting pretty much did not happen this year, which is fine as long as these kids are enjoying this. The good thing about it all is I have eaten more fall mushrooms then ever and met some really great people along the way, so the trade offs were worth it. My goal for the year is 100 coons, so I am a little over half way. Not sure I can keep the pace up till Jan. 31 but we will see.
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Re: Who's setting traps Saturday?
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12/10/2014 01:41 AM
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I have not tore a pelt yet Gilley. The only thing I wish I would have done different was to weld my vise grips on horizontal. Once in a while I will have on slide out because of to much fat other then that no issues.
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