I give props to guys that get it done every year on public land. I've done it and can be frustrating. Killing deer isn't a problem but if you're looking for a trophy it's a real challenge. My biggest on public before I started leasing 7 years ago was a 148in 10pt on 10/28/2013 at splinters ridge. I hate leasing as much as the next guy but I'm gonna do whatever it takes to kill big deer consistently.. Which probably means I'll be leasing outta state in the near future.leasing has been good to me tho.. 3 p&ys and 2 booners in 7 years I'll take anytime considering how my hunting career began. But once again much respect to all you public hunters.. And goodluck here in a few days