this was all on public ground. I found out after the fact we had private ground to go to. For what it was worth the first day dad missed one and I messed up a setup on a mature bird that came in following a hen like a buck chasin a doe was somewhat funny, cousin let one walk at 50yds when his gun would of killed it he just let him do it. I have never heard so many turkeys gobblin in so many different spots they could be heard all over. I will go back when I get two weeks vacation at work..