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2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17632 03/12/2018 04:23 PM 03/12/2018 04:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Good afternoon, The Indiana DNR values the opinion of all its citizens in the management of white-tailed deer in the state. If you are a hunter or non-hunter, we would like to give you an opportunity to provide feedback on deer management. Below are links to the Indiana Department of Natural Resources 2018 Indiana Deer Management Survey. Follow this link to the Survey: https://idnr.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/...RgQRPoN_MLRP_2rv7HE1SC7G3ZPL&Q_CHL=email If you have questions about the validity of this email, please contact the Indiana DNR Deer Hotline at 812-334-3795 between the hours of 8:30 a.m. and 4 p.m. Eastern Time Monday through Friday. The phone number is also published in the Indiana 2017-2018 Hunting and Trapping Guide or on-line on page 24 at wildlife.in.gov/2343.htm. You can also find the number using an internet search for "Indiana Deer Hotline". We appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback. Sincerely, Joe N. Caudell, Ph.D. Deer Research Biologist DNR Division of Fish and Wildlife DeerSurvey@dnr.in.gov Follow this link to the Survey: Take the Survey Or copy and paste the URL below into your internet browser: https://idnr.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/...RgQRPoN_MLRP_2rv7HE1SC7G3ZPL&Q_CHL=email Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17633 03/13/2018 01:50 AM 03/13/2018 01:50 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,449 Seymour P pav Hoosier Hunter
pav Hoosier Hunter P Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,449 Seymour	Done....for what good it was worth? Half or more of the survey was CWD specific. Felt like I was being steered on the other half. (i.e. Please select the best answer from our predetermined list of answers.) Unfortunately, the average hunter is simply too far down the food chain these days to actually be relevant. Hunters ---> DNR ---> NRC ---> Legislature There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17634 03/13/2018 05:08 AM 03/13/2018 05:08 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 536 Camby C Cody.Query Hoosier Hunter
Cody.Query Hoosier Hunter C Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 536 Camby	I agree with PAV. Good grief it seemed like 3/4 of the survey were CWD and sharpshooter questions. Most of them reiterated time and time again to trip you up or something it felt like. Poor survey in my opinion and that data could easily be manipulated to whatever outcome desired....I guess we know what the DNR is going to be focusing on. "Form your own thoughts, instead of quoting another's original insight."-Cody Query

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17635 03/13/2018 10:17 AM 03/13/2018 10:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 584 New Castle, In. Henry gpd005 Hoosier Hunter
gpd005 Hoosier Hunter Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 584 New Castle, In. Henry	I was a little shocked at how long the survey was and also how many sharpshooter/CWD questions there were on it. Team Freezer Fillers

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17636 03/13/2018 10:21 AM 03/13/2018 10:21 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,622 Terre Haute sticksender Site Administrator
sticksender Site Administrator Hoosier Hunter Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,622 Terre Haute	Didn't receive the survey and probably won't. I've never received any of the IDNR surveys. They miss an important demographic among deer hunters by always failing to include landowners. As far as I know they've never made any survey available to landowner deer hunters. Even though hunting landowners make up a large percentage of the deer harvest in the state. --------------------

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17637 03/13/2018 11:21 AM 03/13/2018 11:21 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by sticksender: Didn't receive the survey and probably won't. I've never received any of the IDNR surveys. They miss an important demographic among deer hunters by always failing to include landowners. As far as I know they've never made any survey available to landowner deer hunters. Even though hunting landowners make up a large percentage of the deer harvest in the state. This survey was/is for any and all that have CID# .... to use the current game check in system you must have a CID#! Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17638 03/13/2018 11:23 AM 03/13/2018 11:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Attention Indiana deer hunters. The DNR has released a NEW deer survey! This is being be done through an email request to go onlineand fill out the survey.. They are doing this to collect more detailed data andlearn more about local herds. We will be releasing more information in thefuture about what else you can do to help the DNR collect even more detailedinformation to better help them decide the health of your local herd and bonusquotas for your area. In order to get this new survey you MUST have an account registered with theIndiana DNR. Here is the link to check in to your account (or registerfor a new account) .... https://secure.in.gov/apps/dnr/portal/#/home If you do not check in on line and/or you don't receive email news from the DNRthen you probably do not have an email address registered with the DNR. If theyhave an old email address or you aren't sure follow the link and to see if youare registered or to setup an account. They will let you know if you have anaccount or not and they can help you figure out your password. It is importantwe get as many people to fill this survey out as possible. Talk to people andmake sure they are registered with the DNR. If you are a landowner who isn'trequired to buy a license then you might not have an account. Therefor you willneed to register to get your voice heard. Please once you get the survey take the 10 minutes tofill it out and help our state deer biologist get the information he needs. Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17639 03/13/2018 01:33 PM 03/13/2018 01:33 PM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,807 Montgomery County 7 76chevy Hoosier Hunter
76chevy Hoosier Hunter 7 Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,807 Montgomery County	looooong survey. mostly CWD focused? Weird survey...

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17640 03/13/2018 02:36 PM 03/13/2018 02:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,661 Indiana J Jeff Valovich Hoosier Hunter
Jeff Valovich Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,661 Indiana	I just registered, the above links dont work... says Ive done it or time expired ??... Ive not done it .... "Liberalism is a mental disorder"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17641 03/13/2018 02:39 PM 03/13/2018 02:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,661 Indiana J Jeff Valovich Hoosier Hunter
Jeff Valovich Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,661 Indiana	is this new... Ive always checked deer/turkey in on line and had no problems... I get my license at Big R or Bass Pro usually as I dont have a printer .. "Liberalism is a mental disorder"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17642 03/13/2018 03:22 PM 03/13/2018 03:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by Jeff Valovich: I just registered, the above links dont work... says Ive done it or time expired ??... Ive not done it .... You must receive a email to do the survey.... and yes its new. The first link I posted is from MY email. Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17643 03/14/2018 03:44 AM 03/14/2018 03:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 578 Hayden, In Haymaker Hoosier Hunter
Haymaker Hoosier Hunter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 578 Hayden, In	I didn't think I received a survey but finally found it in my spam folder!!! Victory without honor is a great loss!

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17644 03/14/2018 05:16 AM 03/14/2018 05:16 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,622 Terre Haute sticksender Site Administrator
sticksender Site Administrator Hoosier Hunter Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,622 Terre Haute	Quote This survey was/is for any and all that have CID# .... to use the current game check in system you must have a CID#! Like most people, I've had a Customer ID # since the first year of the CheckIn system, and use it every year. No survey in spam email either, and I check it multiple times per day. --------------------

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17645 03/14/2018 05:36 AM 03/14/2018 05:36 AM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,401 Angola DEC Hoosier Hunter
DEC Hoosier Hunter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,401 Angola	I got the survey and took the time to give my input. Just like others said, I was shocked at the regurgitation of the same questions regarding CWD. It felt like the survey was trying to trap you into contradicting yourself the way that it asked the same questions over and over with minor tweaks to the wording. I felt that not enough questions were spent on input on antlerless harvests, season structures, personal observations, etc. But at least we got to provide some input. Oh and I hate the new CID system that they put in place. Somehow, I have two CID numbers assigned to me personally. I have no clue how it happened because I don't buy licenses, as I am Lifetime License holder. I have called the State multiple times and they cannot for whatever reason resolve it. Derek New Day Outdoors Productions - It's a New Day in the Outdoors Magnus Broadheads Take a child hunting. Wear a safety harness at all times ... TRUST ME!

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17646 03/14/2018 07:43 AM 03/14/2018 07:43 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Total of 187 questions (includes all sub-questions or situations asked to respond to...does not count "choose from following" as multiple) Only 180 total questions IF your county of residence was different than hunting county chosen. 87 questions about CWD (or few other diseases/illnesses) Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17647 03/14/2018 09:36 AM 03/14/2018 09:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,338 John Scifres Hoosier Hunter
John Scifres Hoosier Hunter Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,338	If their goal was to get feedback, now or in the future, they screwed the pooch on this one.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17648 03/14/2018 10:44 AM 03/14/2018 10:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 309 NW Indiana & Chicago, IL Stinger Hoosier Hunter
Stinger Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 309 NW Indiana & Chicago, IL	They absolutely created every type of question to be able to say that 60-80% of hunters support some form of deer assassination squad. Pitiful DNR Employees.. Deer Hunting since 1999 (Virginia, Indiana, Illinois, Minnesota, Montana Antelope) Marketing Guy in Chicago but grew up in Indiana/ Ball State.. blah blah blah.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17649 03/14/2018 04:29 PM 03/14/2018 04:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood B Boneslayer Junior Member
Boneslayer Junior Member B Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood	Took the survey today. Pretty disappointing. Seems like it was mostly about CWD and using sharpshooters. CWD has only affected a few counties in Indiana. How about addressing EHD and the overall health of the deer herd. EHD has effected pretty much every county in the state. I dont know why they would want to pay sharpshooters when IN hunters would gladly do it for free.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17650 03/15/2018 12:38 AM 03/15/2018 12:38 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by Boneslayer: Took the survey today. Pretty disappointing. Seems like it was mostly about CWD and using sharpshooters. CWD has only affected a few counties in Indiana. How about addressing EHD and the overall health of the deer herd. EHD has effected pretty much every county in the state. I dont know why they would want to pay sharpshooters when IN hunters would gladly do it for free. CWD has never been found in Indiana as of YET. TB and EHD..... yes has be found in Wild and farmed cervids in Indiana. Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17651 03/15/2018 03:01 AM 03/15/2018 03:01 AM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood B Boneslayer Junior Member
Boneslayer Junior Member B Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood	Thought i heard it was in Franklin county IN, might have been TB. So almost half of the deer survey was about a disease that has never hit our deer herd. How about the DNR focus on current problems with our deer herd and worry about CWD if and when it ever hits.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17652 03/15/2018 04:25 PM 03/15/2018 04:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Proactive vs reactive is the key points here... Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17653 03/15/2018 05:50 PM 03/15/2018 05:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood B Boneslayer Junior Member
Boneslayer Junior Member B Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 17 Greenwood	Nothing wrong with being proactive but 87 questions about CWD is overkill(kind of like our current situation with our deer herd trending in the wrong direction).

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17654 03/16/2018 09:26 AM 03/16/2018 09:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Chesterton, IN J Jeffro Hoosier Hunter
Jeffro Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 397 Chesterton, IN	Very obvious goals. There were a couple "quality versus quantity" questions but they only asked if you felt you had the desired quantity in your hunting area. Never did they ask if you were satisfied with the QUALITY.... unless they measure quality simply as big versus small antlers. Hunt safe. Shoot straight. Jeff

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17655 03/16/2018 09:45 AM 03/16/2018 09:45 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana J jjas Hoosier Hunter
jjas Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana	DEC Quote But at least we got to provide some input. Exactly. It may not be perfect....or what was wanted by some, but I'll give the new deer biologist kudos for taking it on and making it happen.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17656 03/16/2018 10:08 AM 03/16/2018 10:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 15 Portland, Ind squirrelhunter Junior Hunter
squirrelhunter Junior Hunter Joined: Feb 2018 Posts: 15 Portland, Ind	Done,very long,too many CWD questions to suit me. If they'd cut the quantity of questions in half it still would have been long. A lot of unnecessary questions in my book,like repeats just worded different.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17657 03/16/2018 10:31 AM 03/16/2018 10:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana J jjas Hoosier Hunter
jjas Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana	Quote Originally posted by squirrelhunter: A lot of unnecessary questions in my book,like repeats just worded different. Many surveys are done that way to see if people are answering the questions in a consistent manner.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17658 03/19/2018 01:07 AM 03/19/2018 01:07 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,449 Seymour P pav Hoosier Hunter
pav Hoosier Hunter P Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,449 Seymour	Quote Originally posted by jjas: Quote Originally posted by squirrelhunter: [b] A lot of unnecessary questions in my book,like repeats just worded different. Many surveys are done that way to see if people are answering the questions in a consistent manner. [/b] Prospective employers are notorious for rewording the same question at least twice on evaluation exams. I've not seen such tactics employed on any DNR survey in the past...and this one was way over the top with CWD and sharpshooter questions. Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17659 03/19/2018 03:30 AM 03/19/2018 03:30 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana J jjas Hoosier Hunter
jjas Hoosier Hunter J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,057 Southern Indiana	pav Quote Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17660 03/19/2018 02:09 PM 03/19/2018 02:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana S Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter
Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter S Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana	Quote Originally posted by jjas: pav Quote [b]Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov [/b] And don't stop by just sending your dissatisfaction to a DNR employee.....cause it won't matter in those office walls. There are "larger" people in the mix now...... Pav, you know who to send your comments too... Site Administrator www.indianaoutdoorsman.proboards.com "Never argue with an idiot.....they will beat you with experience every time"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17661 03/19/2018 03:44 PM 03/19/2018 03:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: Quote Originally posted by jjas: [b] pav Quote [b]Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov [/b] And don't stop by just sending your dissatisfaction to a DNR employee.....cause it won't matter in those office walls. There are "larger" people in the mix now...... Pav, you know who to send your comments too... [/b] Good advice.... glad "larger" people in the mix....we seen how the HP rifle Legalization/issue went down! SMH :rolleyes: Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17662 03/19/2018 06:06 PM 03/19/2018 06:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana S Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter
Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter S Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana	Quote Originally posted by BREW...: Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: [b] Quote Originally posted by jjas: [b] pav quote: [b]Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov [/b] And don't stop by just sending your dissatisfaction to a DNR employee.....cause it won't matter in those office walls. There are "larger" people in the mix now...... Pav, you know who to send your comments too... [/b] Good advice.... glad "larger" people in the mix....we seen how the HP rifle Legalization/issue went down! SMH :rolleyes: [/b] And we saw what people like you Brew and jjas did to our IDNR years ago when you didn't like their first proposal....... you let the "larger people in"...... and it's not been the same since. Go pat yourself on the back pal..... more of "what you started" is comin'.. Site Administrator www.indianaoutdoorsman.proboards.com "Never argue with an idiot.....they will beat you with experience every time"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17663 03/20/2018 03:02 AM 03/20/2018 03:02 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: Quote Originally posted by BREW...: [b] Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: [b] quote: Originally posted by jjas: pav quote: [b]Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov [/b] And don't stop by just sending your dissatisfaction to a DNR employee.....cause it won't matter in those office walls. There are "larger" people in the mix now...... Pav, you know who to send your comments too... [/b] Good advice.... glad "larger" people in the mix....we seen how the HP rifle Legalization/issue went down! SMH :rolleyes: [/b] And we saw what people like you Brew and jjas did to our IDNR years ago when you didn't like their first proposal....... you let the "larger people in"...... and it's not been the same since. Go pat yourself on the back pal..... more of "what you started" is comin'.. FALSE FACTS from you as usual :rolleyes: ... The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks like jjas and me and others give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed in house nothing was changed with Legislature as you falsely claim again. Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17664 03/20/2018 03:58 PM 03/20/2018 03:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana S Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter
Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter S Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana	Quote Originally posted by BREW...: Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: [b] Quote Originally posted by BREW...: [b] quote: Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: quote: Originally posted by jjas: pav quote: [b]Doesn't feel like the DNR is after consistency at all. Someone said it earlier...the results will provide highly manipulative data. I'm VERY disappointed. If that's how you feel, perhaps you could contact Joe Caudell @ the DNR and discuss it with him. I've corresponded with him in the past and found him to be very accessible. JCaudell@dnr.in.gov [/b] And don't stop by just sending your dissatisfaction to a DNR employee.....cause it won't matter in those office walls. There are "larger" people in the mix now...... Pav, you know who to send your comments too... [/b] Good advice.... glad "larger" people in the mix....we seen how the HP rifle Legalization/issue went down! SMH :rolleyes: [/b] And we saw what people like you Brew and jjas did to our IDNR years ago when you didn't like their first proposal....... you let the "larger people in"...... and it's not been the same since. Go pat yourself on the back pal..... more of "what you started" is comin'.. FALSE FACTS from you as usual :rolleyes: ... The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks like jjas and me and others give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed in house nothing was changed with Legislature as you falsely claim again. PLEASE READ completely Brew....... or not while drinking. I said nothing about the "Legislature"...... I said "larger people"... and we all knew who that was for those of us paying attention back then. But yes..... that too opened the door up for the IDNR being undermined......... and they have taken advantage of the "weakend IDNR" ever since. So..... go pat yourself and jjas on the back Brew....... look what you started, and now will turn full circle on you. Pitiful..... Site Administrator www.indianaoutdoorsman.proboards.com "Never argue with an idiot.....they will beat you with experience every time"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17665 03/20/2018 04:39 PM 03/20/2018 04:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Dew.... put the pill bottle down while your trying to remember the past FACTS! As I stated The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed "in house" nothing was changed with "larger people". as you falsely remember. The INDR/NRC changed things....as per their job requirements. Pitiful is right ....your hypocritical ways "Dew as I say not as I Dew" SMH! Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17666 03/21/2018 03:16 PM 03/21/2018 03:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana S Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter
Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter S Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana	Quote Originally posted by BREW...: Dew.... put the pill bottle down while your trying to remember the past FACTS! As I stated The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed "in house" nothing was changed with "larger people". as you falsely remember. The INDR/NRC changed things....as per their job requirements. Pitiful is right ....your hypocritical ways "Dew as I say not as I Dew" SMH! You weren't there in a meeting when Patrick Early of the NRC showed his true colors and wanted "a particular" agenda in place vs what the IDNR thought was best... You weren't there when Chad Stewart told us what was really going on, and who's agenda in the NRC was going to trump what the IDNR wanted....and it had nothing with what the "public survey" said... You weren't there in the room with a Senator in Indy in his office with 3 Brass members of the IDNR including Rob Carter, members of the IDNR committee that helped draft Prop 1.0 with Chad Stewart our Deer Biologist of the IDNR........ and hear the IDNR say out loud "WE WANTED PROP 1.0"...... and describing how others were abusing their power to override what the IDNR's proposal was. You weren't in the room when it was also shared that the IDNR knew having over 95% of the hunters feeling they NOT need to even respond to the survey was convincing to them they had the right Proposal on the table.......and demonstrated satisfaction of what was being proposed....amongst other data they had. You Brew........years ago......... were nowhere to be found in support of what the IDNR wanted. But you and jjas WERE found in places to undermine the IDNR and helping those few with power undermine their proposal and process all over full crossbow inclusion, and moving the gun season around a bit. Now here you both sit years later........ division amongst hunters more than EVER, Legislatures doing as they please with our regs, a weakened IDNR, and deer hunters PIZZZZZED off on what happened due to you and jjas type tactics/stunts you used to undermine our IDNR. Enjoy the front row seat you've NEVER been in Brew.....other than the "front row seat" you have at your computer in a little dark room in your house with your empty Shlitz beer cans and Cheeto bags at your feet as you type with your little Orange color covered cheeto fingers. You were NEVER around to what was being said....... and you still aren't....... Keep pretending Brew....... Reality is now here and it's gonna be a B***H.... Site Administrator www.indianaoutdoorsman.proboards.com "Never argue with an idiot.....they will beat you with experience every time"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17667 03/21/2018 05:29 PM 03/21/2018 05:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: Quote Originally posted by BREW...: [b] Dew.... put the pill bottle down while your trying to remember the past FACTS! As I stated The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed "in house" nothing was changed with "larger people". as you falsely remember. The INDR/NRC changed things....as per their job requirements. Pitiful is right ....your hypocritical ways "Dew as I say not as I Dew" SMH! You weren't there in a meeting when Patrick Early of the NRC showed his true colors and wanted "a particular" agenda in place vs what the IDNR thought was best... You weren't there when Chad Stewart told us what was really going on, and who's agenda in the NRC was going to trump what the IDNR wanted....and it had nothing with what the "public survey" said... You weren't there in the room with a Senator in Indy in his office with 3 Brass members of the IDNR including Rob Carter, members of the IDNR committee that helped draft Prop 1.0 with Chad Stewart our Deer Biologist of the IDNR........ and hear the IDNR say out loud "WE WANTED PROP 1.0"...... and describing how others were abusing their power to override what the IDNR's proposal was. You weren't in the room when it was also shared that the IDNR knew having over 95% of the hunters feeling they NOT need to even respond to the survey was convincing to them they had the right Proposal on the table.......and demonstrated satisfaction of what was being proposed....amongst other data they had. You Brew........years ago......... were nowhere to be found in support of what the IDNR wanted. But you and jjas WERE found in places to undermine the IDNR and helping those few with power undermine their proposal and process all over full crossbow inclusion, and moving the gun season around a bit. Now here you both sit years later........ division amongst hunters more than EVER, Legislatures doing as they please with our regs, a weakened IDNR, and deer hunters PIZZZZZED off on what happened due to you and jjas type tactics/stunts you used to undermine our IDNR. Enjoy the front row seat you've NEVER been in Brew.....other than the "front row seat" you have at your computer in a little dark room in your house with your empty Shlitz beer cans and Cheeto bags at your feet as you type with your little Orange color covered cheeto fingers. You were NEVER around to what was being said....... and you still aren't....... Keep pretending Brew....... Reality is now here and it's gonna be a B*H.... [/b] LOL....So your now saying you was in attendance at all these meeting? I call BS....and it just more Of your false claims that you are know for and have been known for many years along with your useless banter! Only person "pretending" is you and your hypocritical...."Dew as I say not as I Dew" agenda! BTW....Bring on the "reality" threats that you been tossing around for years we all know well their out come. LOL Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good * whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17668 03/21/2018 05:44 PM 03/21/2018 05:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana S Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter
Scarlett Dew Hoosier Hunter S Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,829 Indiana	Quote Originally posted by BREW...: Quote Originally posted by Scarlett Dew: [b] Quote Originally posted by BREW...: [b] Dew.... put the pill bottle down while your trying to remember the past FACTS! As I stated The INDR asked for public opinion and feed back Folks give there input.The INDR input was taken and things were changed "in house" nothing was changed with "larger people". as you falsely remember. The INDR/NRC changed things....as per their job requirements. Pitiful is right ....your hypocritical ways "Dew as I say not as I Dew" SMH! You weren't there in a meeting when Patrick Early of the NRC showed his true colors and wanted "a particular" agenda in place vs what the IDNR thought was best... You weren't there when Chad Stewart told us what was really going on, and who's agenda in the NRC was going to trump what the IDNR wanted....and it had nothing with what the "public survey" said... You weren't there in the room with a Senator in Indy in his office with 3 Brass members of the IDNR including Rob Carter, members of the IDNR committee that helped draft Prop 1.0 with Chad Stewart our Deer Biologist of the IDNR........ and hear the IDNR say out loud "WE WANTED PROP 1.0"...... and describing how others were abusing their power to override what the IDNR's proposal was. You weren't in the room when it was also shared that the IDNR knew having over 95% of the hunters feeling they NOT need to even respond to the survey was convincing to them they had the right Proposal on the table.......and demonstrated satisfaction of what was being proposed....amongst other data they had. You Brew........years ago......... were nowhere to be found in support of what the IDNR wanted. But you and jjas WERE found in places to undermine the IDNR and helping those few with power undermine their proposal and process all over full crossbow inclusion, and moving the gun season around a bit. Now here you both sit years later........ division amongst hunters more than EVER, Legislatures doing as they please with our regs, a weakened IDNR, and deer hunters PIZZZZZED off on what happened due to you and jjas type tactics/stunts you used to undermine our IDNR. Enjoy the front row seat you've NEVER been in Brew.....other than the "front row seat" you have at your computer in a little dark room in your house with your empty Shlitz beer cans and Cheeto bags at your feet as you type with your little Orange color covered cheeto fingers. You were NEVER around to what was being said....... and you still aren't....... Keep pretending Brew....... Reality is now here and it's gonna be a B***H.... [/b] LOL....So your now saying you was in attendance at all these meeting? I call BS....and it just more Of your false claims that you are know for and have been known for many years along with your useless banter! Only person "pretending" is you and your hypocritical...."Dew as I say not as I Dew" agenda! BTW....Bring on the "reality" threats that you been tossing around for years we all know well their out come. LOL [/b] We all know Brew........if you can't find evidence of it in a "link" at your computer in your little room....... it never happened..... And I'm quite fine you'll keep believing that. Site Administrator www.indianaoutdoorsman.proboards.com "Never argue with an idiot.....they will beat you with experience every time"

Re: 2018 Indiana DNR Deer Management Survey #17669 03/21/2018 06:01 PM 03/21/2018 06:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Good... I knew you wouldn't prove anyone wrong .... And no one even asked you to provide any links!! That's very telling it's self... maybe a guilty mind at work? Proposal 1&2 wasn't about any survey as you falsely claim it was....It was all to do with PUBLIC input asked for by the IDNR...And here we are SEVEN years later and some are still whining that their minority input didn't "TRUMP" the majority input! Sounds like straight up democrats at work to me! SMH Many have seen you go down that known rabbit hole before and know the usual out come. And I'm quite fine if you keep believing your false claims also...I sure your known History will repeat it's self Enjoy your you delightful night back under the bridge ..... and don't forget your Meds it seems you have some NEW ones or your bottle is empty once more! Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

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