I would agree JB to a large degree on your comment but I do think one goofy landowner or neighbor can really create issues, again depending on what area of the state and the available habitat in that area. In true farm county, one of our neighbors called tonight following up on his previous request to coyote hunt the farm. He said he and his son counted 19 antlerless deer go into our small south woodlot at about 4:30 tonight from a neighbors woods with another group standing in our field just outside the woodlot. We had a "new" hunter and his family start hunting a neighbors property this year and they are the type of folks shoot everything that moves. So, our farm has only been hunted one day, for one hour since opening weekend of firearms season with no deer taken, except an archery doe, unless poached. Another neighbor counted almost 50 the other day. Steve, the guy who is going to hunt and trap coyotes, knows no one is allowed on the property until after deer season is over to enable the deer to have a safe place without the presence or pressure from other hunters or people. It's a difficult situation because everybody differs in their philosophy and frankly most guys who deer hunt are more interested in shooting then managing or conservation.