Sorry to rain on your parade there Ty, by late antlerless, does are yarded up or herded up for the winter. Times you will see 50 together, but it will not be the fifty in your area, they may come from miles around and give a false sense of population, though you may not have a single deer the rest of the year. This is fact, anyone that hangs in the deer woods as much as you should know this. We have one area that consistently brings all ages of bucks from up to 10 miles away for that winter food source. That is fact.

Secondly, you all keep playing numbers to benefit your agruement. No since even going there. In either 2010 or 2011, hunters taking 4 or more deer amounted to 38,000 deer.

Even Dr. Kroll says, you cannot ever know exactly how many deer you have, impossible if not behind a fence, tagged, collared, or marked somehow. You may think you know, but you never do Dr. Kroll, little more expert than SMALL ACRE HUNTING BLOG. . . .

Valovich, dead on. The idea is to save some does and give our kids the same opportunities we had. Period. However, you all want to act like some back yard biologists. LMAO. The DNR even says they are managing for social capacity. CDACs lets every single person THEMSELF< JJAS< speak for themselves and come to an agreement between farmers and hunters, photographers and foresters. . . . . So all get heard, a concenses it obtained in front of every SELF JJAS BREW. . . The recommendation goes to the deer biologist, who then uses it, UNLESS there is a scientific reason not to. ALL FREE.

Big problem here you all are not seeing in overthinking this to make only you 3-4 correct is we just need to save some does. Most people are trained to not kill what they don't eat. So DFW puts big numbers to give the impression there are lots of deer and need to kill as many as possible. There own words to present a impression to harvest more in those counties. Secondly, they override guilt going against what our father's taught us. OH YOU DON'T HAVE TO FEEL GUILTY IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO EAT IT. DONATE IT TO THE HOMELESS, OR WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER PROGRAM TO SHARE WITH PETA PEOPLE THAT DON'T HUNT BUT WANT HEALTHY VENISON. SO DON'T WORRY KEEP KILLING AS MANY AS YOU WANT, UNLIMITED RESOURCE.

Valovich has it, just save some **** does for our kids, use some common sense and tell hunters the truth. Most hunt a couple days a year and don't have an idea about biology or anything else. They trust the DNR is managing them correctly. **** they want us to have HPR's and all these tags 4-8 bounus counties, late season during herding up period on food sources. Heck yes, lets get us one of them their AR15's and kill us some of them their deer.

CDAC's JJAS BREW Valovich Ferb, anyone gives you all as your SELF and opportunity to give real hard core valuable input into your areas. You are too dang dumb to see it. Flat out, or your ego's being Jr. Biologist has clouded your minds. Brew by the way, Joe Bacon clearly states he is at the table as President of the IDHA. So where are the meetings, were did they ask any members, were have they shared about the stakeholders meetings before and after? Where Where Where? You have been following so long you all have lost sight of the big picture. Deer hunting is supposed to be fun, we want to see and have our kids see deer. We want to kill a couple to augment our diets. We want to watch them on our farms, taking sunday drives with the family in the evening to look for deer. Do all the things that stimulate the economy d/t DEER DEER DEER. Is it that **** hard, seriously.

Thanks valovich, not in total agreement but you get it.