Brew, we are advocating for County Deer Advisory Councils that have all stakeholders in a county Hunters, non consumptive users, agriculture, toursim, transportation, disease specialists, forestry. Anyone that as an interest in deer. Then each county makes a "recommendation" prior to quota's being determined. Simple. DNR can still override recommendations if scientific reason to do so. Although all deer are managed currently for social carrying capacity. CDAC's do exactly that. Typical behaviour from you. IWDHM Group has said for two years CDAC is our goal. WE facilitated Kaz , Vice Chair of Wisconsin's NRB who facilitated with CDAC's in Wisconsin to a meeting with Director Clark and Director Reiter. Final agreement in meeting was IWDHM Group would facilitate 6 pilots (though we had 10), and the DFW would use the recommendations of the counties that had pilots they did not. Simple facts. So how exactly are the "FB Bullies" attempting in any way to take over antlerless quota's. No we are attempting to facilitate CDAC's in each county that are free by the way to allow a portal for all stakeholders to have a say and keep the deer herd stable from year to you. You know all this quite well, you, as always attempt a distraction from the true facts. I am not engaging in an argument with you. I would also like to say I have never attacked you, like you are attacking and calling names. It would seem the moderator of this forum should remove you for name calling and intentional misleading statements in response of someone asking a legitimate question, that we have video proof of the answers we provide. UNEDITED VIDEO that you have publicly stated it was edited. In no way was it edited. I really don't understand what a FB bully really is by the way????