So who don't you guys trust? Well not the whole list.....just pertinent to this thread! The QDMA, the states they get the harvest data from or the compliant hunters that reported their bucks through their DNR? If it's pulled from state data, it should be accurate for the reported harvest. Many people pass bucks nowadays and wait for a bigger one, right? It's kinda looked down on, killing smalls. This data lines up with what I have been seeing over the past several years, seat of the pants observation. Instead of typing cryptic stuff or one liners, how about something of substance. Not looking to cyber joust, I'm just not seeing what you guys evidently are seeing and kind of shocked that it is so different. And I just tromp over-hunted public land.....far from the QDMA enhanced, private or leased ground I hear about. Meaningful discussion encouraged.