@js2397- I didn't include every detail as to keep the post as short as possible. Your point is a good one, but in my case the stand is 17ft., field is a total of 12 acres, and has crest in the middle that drops about 12-14 ft to where my stand is. So in my case, a virtually level shot. My point is should an average hunter be taking a quartering away in iffy light with roads and houses around. Even with my .243 I know it's a shot I would have been tempted with. I'm not necessarily against hprs, but I do think the counties have to be looked at. In an area like yours that is extremely hilly, I would have no problem with them.