That I don't "hunt" with. I took it to a state park shoot them in a barrel "hunt". It was a tool to do an efficient job. It was not and is not HUNTING. I was there to do a job. It took zero skill to make those two 60 or so yard shots. I have not and would not use that gun hunting on my private grounds. I have that gun simply because I have a huge gun collection because I like my guns. But in zero case are they used for deer bunting.