Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 04:35 AM
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Blackhorn 209 pushing a 50 cal. 240 gr XTP and I love it!
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 06:37 AM
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For side hammer guns, black powder is my first choice, FF or FFF depending on what you like.
In-lines, any of the black powder subs will do the trick. Pellets are the easiest but harder to dial in a load. Pyrodex or T-7 will be the easiest to find. Shockeys Gold, White Hots, BlackHorn 209 are usually the hardest to find.
Loose powder will allow for smaller adjustments for better accuracy.
A standard load that shoots pretty good in all .50's is 80 grain powder, 250-300 grain bullet.
And of course there is the evil smokeless muzzle loader which shoot smokeless powder.
I have all 3 types, side hammers, modern in-lines and smokeless. So far Ive killed deer this year with 2 out of 3 of them. h.h.
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 08:04 AM
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When we gonna see 'em Yaz?!? Been waiting since yest!! 
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Yaz: Originally posted by Weedhopper: [b] Another vote for Swiss 3F in all my MLers. I usually stock up during the Spring shoot at Friendship. I have a feeling I'll be picking up a couple extra jugs next Spring...huh Yaz? Seems to have worked out pretty well on a couple of deer this week!!! [/b]You mean you actually killed something....???? Inquiring minds want to know....  h.h.
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 08:17 AM
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HOLY SMOKIN BUCK BATMAN! Now that's what I'm talkin bout!! Thanks Weed..... and CONGRATS to YAZ!!! 
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 09:36 AM
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I'm pretty impressed by my second hand CVA Wolf. It likes 80-90 grains BH 209 with 240 grain TC Shockwave bullet and CCi hot 209 primer. Less smoke and recoil is good for me. Might be my most accurate gun.
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 12:29 PM
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White hots paired with Barnes sabots. Best shooting combo I can find out of my CVA Wolf.
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/12/2014 06:19 PM
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Triple 7 pellets and tc 300 gr shockwave out of the cva optima pro. I can say dad shoots those hornadays in 250 gr and they are terrible on blood trails. Two big bucks and they barely ran out of sight and they were hard to find. Thinkin we are switching to the Barnes expanders
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/13/2014 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by deerhunter986: Triple 7 pellets and tc 300 gr shockwave out of the cva optima pro. I can say dad shoots those hornadays in 250 gr and they are terrible on blood trails. Two big bucks and they barely ran out of sight and they were hard to find. Thinkin we are switching to the Barnes expanders if you like the shockwaves, you will love the barnes expanders,i switched to them after getting horrible blood trails from shockwaves..
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/13/2014 09:00 AM
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Those Barnes Expanders are bad-azz bullets!
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/13/2014 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Weedhopper: Those Barnes Expanders are bad-azz bullets! Ive got around 300-400 of the Expanders and Spitfires and have shot them since the first came out. Out of my smokeless Savage @ 2400 fps they put the smack down on deer. I sometimes use the Spitfires when I plan on hunting a spot that might have a long shot because the Spitfires have a better BC than the Expanders. Never have to worry about a Barnes bullet fragging out like a jacketed bullet will. h.h.
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/13/2014 11:51 AM
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In my traditions inline I use 2 777 pellets and a 245 gr Powerbelt with the green tip....I can stack 3 rounds at 50 yds and at 100yds they group 1"-1.5" with a few touching.......I sight it in so that I'm 2" high at 50 yds which puts me about dead on at 100 yds.....however, it's been about 4 years since I used it as I now primarily Bowhunt....but the rifle is a tack driver with the 3x9x40 Bushnell Trophy on it.....
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/15/2014 05:35 PM
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100gr.Triple 7 pellets & primers. 240 gr.Hornady XTP out of a 1997 TC Encore
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/16/2014 12:22 PM
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Just using regular black powder out of the T/C Renegade I got off Weed this last summer and a lead conical I think is 350grni forget. Thing is a shooter and a lot of fun!
Out of my knight inline I just shoot the 777 pellets 100gr and a 300gr Hornady SST. That worked well last year on 3 deer.
I'd like to try a flinter someday like TD, but I've gotta get one with the sidelock first.
"The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/16/2014 02:12 PM
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I'm going to give a nno scientific account of using the powder pellets.
Several years ago at one of the events the IDHA did an informational "show and tell" of legal deer loads we put a charge of 100 grain(2) pellets in a clear tube and a 300 grain sabot on top of it. After setting two weeks the powder had condenced and there was an obvious air pocket!
I ONLY use Shockey Triple Seven powder and seat my bullet firmly on that charge. NO air space for me!
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/16/2014 02:12 PM
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Sounds good Dave! I could see having several lol! Some of them are real lookers.
"The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/21/2014 09:18 AM
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Fyi on bh209 you need to use a standard 209 primer not a clean burning ml primer. Also must ensure flame channel of breach plug is very clean. Do these things and congrats on switching to new powder for the last time ever. The stuff is amazing in my opinion. Clean with regular solvent and multiple shots without swabbing. Also it burns hotter than many powders. My traditions loves 90 gr pushing Barnes 250gr tez expander.
"I dream of the day when my son can join me in the woods on a hunt. I will pass on all that I have learned to him, just like my father did to me. To me, this defines tradition which can survive for endless generations as long as we do our part."
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/28/2014 05:21 AM
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Originally posted by trapperDave: im a convert. nothing but the holy black from here on out. yall can have your subs. Im done with them after I burn up my last box of pyro in my inline.....pretty much done with those too. Got the flintlock bug. call me a liar. lol Walmart had pyrodex rs on clearance. I bought a pound for my bp shotgun and renegade to play with until I make the trip south for some more goex
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Re: muzzleloader powders?
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12/28/2014 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by 76chevy: I am going to try the blackhorn, I had 2 misfire yesterday morning on 2 coyotes...darn wet 777 My experience is that a BH 209 will also misfire when moisture exposed😞
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