Re: Deer Survey
#5849
02/19/2014 10:58 AM
02/19/2014 10:58 AM
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If you can post up a copy....thanks
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Re: Deer Survey
#5851
02/19/2014 11:25 AM
02/19/2014 11:25 AM
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This is not official by any means, but as far as I've been able to tell over the years, they don't send the surveys to license-exempt landowners. Only to annual license buyers, and LTL holders. If that's correct, it would exclude a very large segment of the hunting demographic.
With tele-check in use, they should have an ample supply of license-exempt names/addresses.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 11:36 AM
02/19/2014 11:36 AM
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Huntnfreak
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I received one today also..I'm a LTL holder!
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 11:37 AM
02/19/2014 11:37 AM
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Scarlett Dew
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Originally posted by THROBAK: Got a Survey from the DNR today looks like they are taking a Proactive role Not waiting for us to come to them they are coming to us ,A Good thing Imo The survey covers all aspects of the sport Thumbs up to Chad and the DNR What'd I tell you all..... Lesson #1 the IDNR learned from the Prop 1.0 and 2.0 fallout......WHEN YOU WANT SECURE FEEDBACK, YOU MAIL IT TO OUR HOMES!!! What hunters REALLY want will now be heard!! The Prop 2.0 proponents abused the unsecure system that then undermined the IDNR. Never Again.......with decisions/changes that matter..... Gotta Love It..... Kinda reminds me of the days the OBR was being discussed. If you would have listend to Woody's gang of a "few" and his/their "chatter" you would have thought 99% of the deer hunters would not want an OBR.....but once the SECURE SURVEYS went out....70% of the hunters wanted the OBR. And the little man raged about it for 10 more years....only to see it go permanent in the end....LOL!!! And Woody sends me hateful little PM's telling me I stink at predicting the future. LOL!!!!!! If he only knew....  He rode his "one trick pony" into the sunset.....and that sunset is now LONG GONE. 
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:19 PM
02/19/2014 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by THROBAK: You might not like what you hear when the survey Responces cant be flooded with input from just one group You bet I will like it. My gripe from DAY ONE the last "go around" was that unsecure methods were being used to represent what the average deer hunter wanted. Let the chips fall where they may........but let the chips fall SECURELY!!!! New Day is upon us.......and THIS method is good.  This is Theeeee EXACT method we proposed to a Senator with IDNR Brass at the table a few years back in Indy when we saw what was being done with Prop #1. There were no heads nodding "no" to our idea for more secure feedback at that table and in that meeting. And Walllaaaaa........it is here...... Right now the advocates that force Prop 2.0 upon deer hunters AND our IDNR are totally FREAKING OUT that the IDNR is going to this more SECURE method. They do NOT want this to happen.....they do not want REAL unmanipulated data exposed........even though their signature line in every post here says ......"data, there is no substitute"....LOL!!!!!!!!!!! (But I'm sure that "signature line" will be disappearing quickly....LMAO!!)
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:25 PM
02/19/2014 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by THROBAK: Got a Survey from the DNR today looks like they are taking a Proactive role Not waiting for us to come to them they are coming to us ,A Good thing Imo The survey covers all aspects of the sport Thumbs up to Chad and the DNR I'm glad they are doing it this way.....I looked through the comments last time and there were so many from the same people it was ridiculous.....
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:35 PM
02/19/2014 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by jjas: Originally posted by THROBAK: [b] Got a Survey from the DNR today looks like they are taking a Proactive role Not waiting for us to come to them they are coming to us ,A Good thing Imo The survey covers all aspects of the sport Thumbs up to Chad and the DNR I'm glad they are doing it this way.....I looked through the comments last time and there were so many from the same people it was ridiculous..... [/b]Hey jjas.........what happened to your signature line that used to say " data, there is no substitute" ...............LOL!!!!!!!!!! :p
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Re: Deer Survey
#5858
02/19/2014 12:37 PM
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DawnPatrol
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Dew.....your a cyber bully....get a life!
Hunting, Fishing, and Trapping is where it's @!!!!!
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Re: Deer Survey
#5859
02/19/2014 12:40 PM
02/19/2014 12:40 PM
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Scarlett Dew
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Originally posted by DawnPatrol: Dew.....your a cyber bully....get a life! "I never give them H E L L. I just tell the truth and they think it's H E L L." -----"Harry S. Truman"
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:41 PM
02/19/2014 12:41 PM
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DawnPatrol
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Or at least be diplomatic......you are always trying to entice arguments etc. Go do it on your on site and quit ruining this one!
Hunting, Fishing, and Trapping is where it's @!!!!!
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:48 PM
02/19/2014 12:48 PM
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DawnPatrol
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Lol...I see...but man....I'm all for different ideas etc......you highjack a thread and start bringing up stuff to get rises out of people! I like ideas and solutions....just think you need to back off of it sometimes!
Hunting, Fishing, and Trapping is where it's @!!!!!
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 12:49 PM
02/19/2014 12:49 PM
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+1 Originally posted by DawnPatrol: Or at least be diplomatic......you are always trying to entice arguments etc. Go do it on your on site and quit ruining this one!
It's hard to soar like an eagle when you're flying with a bunch of turkeys.
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Re: Deer Survey
#5864
02/19/2014 12:53 PM
02/19/2014 12:53 PM
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Scarlett Dew
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Originally posted by DawnPatrol: Lol...I see...but man....I'm all for different ideas etc......you highjack a thread and start bringing up stuff to get rises out of people! I like ideas and solutions....just think you need to back off of it sometimes! Keep in mind that of the 1,000's on this site.....it's simply the same few I get a "rise" out of. I just feel it's VERY applicable to this type of thread that the history we just went through......has brought about more SECURE feedback. The ones that set that stage need to read what they now have "reaped" for what they "sewed"..... .....and I have ZERO empathy for those that now grind their teeth for the bed they made for themselves. My posts are not directed at you Dawnpatrol.....just sayin'...
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 01:30 PM
02/19/2014 01:30 PM
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Problem is you're always sayin
Lol
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 03:30 PM
02/19/2014 03:30 PM
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Random selection surveys mailed directly to deer hunters was the IDNR's data collection process for many years....prior to the internet.
A former director once told me the internet would be the end of wild game management as we know it. He was right. Maybe this is a sign the new regime has learned from their mistakes?
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Re: Deer Survey
#5870
02/19/2014 03:48 PM
02/19/2014 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by pav: Random selection surveys mailed directly to deer hunters was the IDNR's data collection process for many years....prior to the internet.
Exactly...and they have also been doing this in the internet era. There was also "FACE TO FACE" input given on prop 1. The DNR set up and had meetings around the state the Sportsman Round Table also did the same.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 04:18 PM
02/19/2014 04:18 PM
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Did you guys know american idol is on?? yawn...
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 04:28 PM
02/19/2014 04:28 PM
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 04:38 PM
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I received one today and am a landowner, however, I purchased the bundle license also. I though the survey touched on all the issues in a concise way. The IDNR catches a lot of flack, but if there are any on here I would thank them. If we put ourselves in their shoes, it is a truly daunting task to try to please meat hunters, trophy hunters, farmers, insurance cos., with one set of rules. I found myself filling it out as a trophy hunter, but then again, I'm just happy to be in the woods. Our perception becomes our reality, but that doesn't necessarily make it truth.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by gundude: Did you guys know american idol is on?? yawn... No I didn't.... That's ok though, AI has outlived itself and should have been canceled years ago...
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Re: Deer Survey
#5875
02/19/2014 05:00 PM
02/19/2014 05:00 PM
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DawnPatrol
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Yeah....my wife's watching it! I'm watching lindner's angling edge!
Hunting, Fishing, and Trapping is where it's @!!!!!
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/19/2014 05:33 PM
02/19/2014 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by THROBAK: Got a Survey from the DNR today looks like they are taking a Proactive role Not waiting for us to come to them they are coming to us ,A Good thing Imo The survey covers all aspects of the sport Thumbs up to Chad and the DNR THROBAK, The DNR conducts these deer hunter surveys every few years. Contrary to what some want others to believe they are absolutely nothing new. See.. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/3352.htm Under wildlife Click on search reports and type in deer hunter and see that these deer hunter surveys go back into at least the 1980s.
Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/20/2014 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by BREW...: Originally posted by THROBAK: [b] Got a Survey from the DNR today looks like they are taking a Proactive role Not waiting for us to come to them they are coming to us ,A Good thing Imo The survey covers all aspects of the sport Thumbs up to Chad and the DNR THROBAK,
The DNR conducts these deer hunter surveys every few years. Contrary to what some want others to believe they are absolutely nothing new. See.. www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/3352.htm
Under wildlife Click on search reports and type in deer hunter and see that these deer hunter surveys go back into at least the 1980s. [/b]If I'm reading the list correctly, it appears the last deer hunter survey was in 2010....four years ago. Point is...one heck of alot happened in that four years....and suspect internet feedback (to say the least) played a key role in the outcome.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/20/2014 05:12 AM
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jjas
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Looks like these surveys are more SOP than I realized.....1987, 1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1997, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2010.....Interesting.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/20/2014 06:12 AM
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I got one-read selection was random. I am a lifetime license holder, not happy with their management techniques and I will gladly tell them so!
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/20/2014 06:29 AM
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Yaz
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Originally posted by jjas: Looks like these surveys are more SOP than I realized.....1987, 1988, 1989, 1993, 1995, 1997, 2002, 2004, 2007, 2010.....Interesting. I have NEVER received a deer survey. I have gotten a couple on small game, and fur bearers over the years.
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/20/2014 08:01 AM
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Jeff Valovich
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30+ years of deer hunting and buying Indiana licenses and Ive never seen a survey.... of anything ....
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/23/2014 04:12 PM
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jbwhttail
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LTL holder and received one, heck I thought I was banned from surveys years ago.
Gave them my feedback....
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Deer Survey
#5886
02/23/2014 04:40 PM
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RedLab
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Wouldn't it be interesting to conduct the same survey here using the same questions and then compare with the findings from the DNR ?
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Re: Deer Survey
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02/23/2014 05:35 PM
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Bryan78
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Originally posted by RedLab: Wouldn't it be interesting to conduct the same survey here using the same questions and then compare with the findings from the DNR ? Just copied and pasted a new thread about it....
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