Emerald Ash Bore
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01/06/2015 12:17 PM
01/06/2015 12:17 PM
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jbwhttail
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I know this will only affect a few folks on here but...... please be viligant if you own or have property that have ash trees. This past deer season we found damaged trees from the ash bore, many, many trees on our farm. It has forced us to timber a property we would not have otherwise timbered. A conservative guess is 40% of our woods is ash trees, I will never live to see the woods as it is today.
It is going to be timbered and there is a market as long as the tree is not already dead. Two years ago the State had traps on my property looking for ash bores and found none. Today I have woodpeckers shredding bark feasting on ash bores.
Be vigilant if you haven't already had these critters, read the material that is out there on what to look for. I heard that the entire state of Indiana is now under quarantine.
My only solace is that there is still a market, I can get some value now or let them die and get zero return.
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
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01/06/2015 12:30 PM
01/06/2015 12:30 PM
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hornharvester
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They killed all my ash trees 3 years ago up here. The wood still has value until it falls even if its dead. Logger told me he would buy the ash until it fell on the ground and then it was too late. Bad thing is if they are going to log the loggers dont want just the ash they want the other hardwood too.
Ash damage looks like "D" on its side. The round holes are wood peckers working the tree. The bore gets under the bark and eats a ring around the tree killing it.
Some of my ash are falling since this summer so Im using them as firewood. h.h.
If you're not a hemorrhoid, get off my butt.
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
#36393
01/06/2015 05:51 PM
01/06/2015 05:51 PM
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jbwhttail
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You are correct HH, the ash bore drills a D shape hole.
The logger we talked to had the same idea, let's get the oak/hickory/walnut.......... that was until we explained we DID NOT need the money. We only want a value for trees that are going to die anyway.
Now to be totaly honest, there are "some" walnuts on banks of creeks we will have cut and removed. This is based on roots being washed out or root freeze from exposure. What WILL NOT happen is a "rape" of our woods, we don't need the money. What we are trying to do is clean up a disaster............ it came from China and we are sending the infected logs back to China.....
As an owner of this property, I don't have a mortatge, I own it........... I will sell the salvage wood with little regret. My heirs will see the results of this plague, I hope I planned well for the renovation......
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
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01/06/2015 07:48 PM
01/06/2015 07:48 PM
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Logger friend told me there is a Black Walnut disease thats out in western states right now and heading this way. Estimates are about 20 years before it reaches us. Welcome to globalization. h.h.
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
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01/07/2015 02:12 PM
01/07/2015 02:12 PM
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Seen them cutting in fishers. I have an ash in my yard that needs taken down that I am sure has it. Got an uncle that cuts trees for a living just hard for him to get out here. Cut for firewood cause I need some and don't to buy it
Huntin is not a matter of life and death, its more important than that
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
#36405
01/20/2015 05:30 PM
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cedarthicket
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Too bad they don't like bush honeysuckle, autumn olive, tree of heaven, and other non-native invasive trees and shrubs.
May all our hunts be safe, enjoyable, and deeply appreciated.
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
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01/20/2015 07:00 PM
01/20/2015 07:00 PM
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HatchetJack
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We now have it in all but 4 counties in Indiana.
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Re: Emerald Ash Bore
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01/21/2015 11:49 AM
01/21/2015 11:49 AM
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jbwhttail
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Ash is gringing $0.55-$0.70 per board foot. We didn't want to cut it but...... some money is better than standing dead trees. Now we have to deduct $0.08 per board foot then split 50/50 with the logger, we also are going to harvest a limited number of walnuts. The walnut is being taken on creek banks where roots are being washed out, figured we only want the logger mess one time in the next 10-20 years.
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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