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Snaring Questions #23503
12/01/2013 01:34 PM
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Still a newbie to setting snares for yotes, so I figured I would ask the guys with the experience.
Any feed back is greatly appreciated.

Question #1, What gauge steel leader do you use connect the snare to the fence / tree? I currently am using 16 gauge annealed wire. Seems to work fine unless I get a deer in it (assuming). Then I loose a snare.

Question #2, Today I checked a site and found that the limb I tide off on was not green. Coyote fur allover & tore up the ground. Should I still set a snare in this location or did I just educate coyotes to the set?

Question #3, In a set that I had previous success in the day before, should I reset another snare or move on to another location.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Snaring Questions #23504
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Can't answer those for ya but I enjoy reading through this topic on Trapperman each year.

It is on snaring yotes:

http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1145402/1.html


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Re: Snaring Questions #23505
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Buckwheat,

check the archives on trapperman.com you can do a search for snares and coyotes

There is more than a few days worth of good reading there from some real experts.

Re: Snaring Questions #23506
12/03/2013 03:18 PM
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Buckwheat,

I'll share what I have learned. I can snare better than I can trap. However, I snare mostly fences, and "crawl unders". Parker bow, ,Horn Harvester, Sticksender and a few others can snare em in the woods.

Question #1, What gauge steel leader do you use connect the snare to the fence / tree? I currently am using 16 gauge annealed wire. Seems to work fine unless I get a deer in it (assuming). Then I loose a snare.

First of all, I like using these a LOT. They save a lot of in spots where I can put a fresh snare back in.
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I use mostly baling wire. It is easy to work with, and when doubled, is really strong enough to hold a coyotes. Trick is to have a good pair of pliers, and twist the wire tight to what ever your anchor is.
I usually double up a piece, and put a second piece around it too. Basically 4 wraps. Baling wire is cheap, so i use a lot of it.

I learned the hard way DO NOT wire off a snare to a woven wire fence! A big coyote will shipwreck a good fence, and pull the staples right out of two or three posts! Done that once. If I cannot wire off the snare to a post, I use an earth anchor right there. Thats where the quick connect links come in handy. As far as an anchor in the woods, I wouldn't go with a live sapling no less that 3" in diameter. They'll chew through one small than that in short order.

Question #2, Today I checked a site and found that the limb I tide off on was not green. Coyote fur allover & tore up the ground. Should I still set a snare in this location or did I just educate coyotes to the set?

You educated that one! I'm surprised it did not get caught up in some brush or a fence where you could find it!! Set it again if its not too tore up right there. Another one will come through eventually.

Question #3, In a set that I had previous success in the day before, should I reset another snare or move on to another location.

Move up or down the trail a short distance to where ever you can get them pinched down into a fresh snare. If its not tore up too bad, build it back up with the available branches, or what ever, and set it again right there.

Not hard and fast rules, just go with your gut on it, and you'll learn pretty quick. A good snow is a GREAT teacher in coyote snaring!!!!

Re: Snaring Questions #23507
12/04/2013 04:12 AM
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I set mowed trails and small game paths.

On mowed trails I brush in a section, then lay or wire a jump stick and make a hole in the high end so the yotes can duck and go threw. I hang the snare off the duck stick.

Deer jump over the low end and the yotes go under the high end. I try to find a bush right beside the trail or drive a steel post in for this set up.

I use a 5' 1/8 anchor cable looped around a tree then a 3/32" cable micro lock snare with a swiveled end. You can lay the cable on the jump stick and duck stick so the yotes don't see it.

All the yotes Ive caught using this set always hang them selves. h.h.


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Re: Snaring Questions #23508
12/04/2013 06:01 AM
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all very good advice above. A good walk in fresh snow teaches you a ton!

If you are looking for a good coyote trapping dvd that covers snaring and footholds, check out this one.

http://www.fntpost.com/Products/Coyote+Trapping/Matt+Jones+Clint+Locklear%27s+Coyote+Chaos+DVD

Hoosier trapper supply sells it also. I learned a lot from this DVD.

Re: Snaring Questions #23509
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You guys buy your snares or make your own? I was thinking about this:

http://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SPSUPERSP


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Re: Snaring Questions #23510
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Bean, I bought that exact same kit to make my own. I use a Dremel with a cut off blade to cut the cable into 5' lengths. A vice and ball pen hammer to crimp the stops.

Since the snare is usually junk after a catch I cut the cable and use the parts to make another snare. h.h.


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Re: Snaring Questions #23511
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I liked this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8arMDCghlM

Excellent video on building your own.


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Re: Snaring Questions #23512
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I have made some and bought some. Snare shop and dakotaline snares both have good products.

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Originally posted by bean:
You guys buy your snares or make your own? I was thinking about this:

http://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SPSUPERSP

Re: Snaring Questions #23513
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You guys buy your snares or make your own? I was thinking about this:

http://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SPSUPERSP
Both. I usually start off the season with a couple dozen new snares. I also have a roll of cable. I save ALL my snare parts after a catch. By the end of the season, I am usually building some out of the parts. I also build some for specific locations that need to be longer, or shorter than what I can buy.

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What size cable do you guys use? Looking to buy the kit and make my own. need something for coyote AND beaver. Thanks


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I have used 3/32" 7x7 cable. It will hold about anything you catch. I have caught coyotes and coon and not a chance they are breaking it.

I would like to try 5/64" 1x19. I hear it is a bit faster.

A good swivel or two will definitely help prevent fur damage. Just be smart where you set them, even a relaxing "non lethal" snare is often lethal with entanglement.

Re: Snaring Questions #23516
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3/32". It will hold 'em. I have only had a couple break. Both were my fault too. Where I caught one of the coyotes, he had room to move back and forth over an old rusty barbed wire. He worked it until the cable frayed and broke.

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3/32 is what i use. 1/8 for my anchor cables. If you snare in a woods make sure the anchor tree is large enough the yote cant chew threw it. h.h.


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Re: Snaring Questions #23518
12/06/2013 09:15 AM
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Are deer stops required here in Indiana and does it have to be a relax type ??


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Re: Snaring Questions #23519
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Jeff,

no deer stops are not required. Here are the rules on relaxing locks.

Snares
It is only legal to use a snare to trap a wild animal on land you own or with the written permission of the landowner. The maximum legal circumference for snare loops is 15 inches, unless at least half of the snare loop is covered by water or if the snare employs a relaxing snare lock. A relaxing snare lock allows the snare loop to loosen slightly to reduce the possibility of strangulation. Regulations on snare size and lock are designed to prevent accidental loss of domestic animals.

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Sorry to get back so late on this. I have been browsing thru trapperman.com & 2night reviewing all the good info posted on this thread. All great stuff. The trapperman thread is awesome. This week has been hectic at work & my dad has been running my snare line the past 4 days. No luck yet. Looks like I may do a little scouting in the snow in the morning after deer hunting. To be honest, the only two yotes I've snared, paid off by seeing fresh tracks in the snow a few days before. I also have employed a bait pile close to the snares. Oddly enough there is minimal activity at the site. I plan to set up a trail camera there this weekend. Good luck guys & plan to see some more pics from the trap/snare line.

Re: Snaring Questions #23521
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Tip on bait piles. One would think it would be a no brainer to dump some bait out in a pile and then hang snares all around the bait pile but this normally is not productive. The yotes usually will slow down once they get to the pile and cautiously approach and don't commit to the snares. What a guy should do is set snares on trails leading to the bait pile quit some distance away. Sounds good anyway.

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+1

another tip is to put bait ON trails in thickets, a snare or two on each side. Spread it out and put a carcass or two in multiple spots with snares between and in the in/out trails.

They get greedy go check out the other pile thinking it might be better stuff then bang, game over.

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Tip on bait piles. One would think it would be a no brainer to dump some bait out in a pile and then hang snares all around the bait pile but this normally is not productive. The yotes usually will slow down once they get to the pile and cautiously approach and don't commit to the snares. What a guy should do is set snares on trails leading to the bait pile quit some distance away. Sounds good anyway.


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