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King of game birds in exile #20001 08/24/2013 09:45 AM 08/24/2013 09:45 AM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter
BREW... OP Hoosier Hunter Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,289 PlainField, IN	Very Nice write up in Outdoor Indiana - September/October 2013 magazine about the history of Ruffed Grouse in Indiana Never knew we traded ruffed grouse for Turkey with Missouri back in the Day... http://www.in.gov/dnr/7764.htm#King Good stuff Jack... Guardian Of The One Buck Rule & Gunseason "Some people just need a good *** whoopin. It keeps the planets aligned"

Re: King of game birds in exile #20002 08/24/2013 11:21 AM 08/24/2013 11:21 AM
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 376 Central Indiana C cedarthicket Hoosier Hunter
cedarthicket Hoosier Hunter C Joined: May 2009 Posts: 376 Central Indiana	Brew, thanks for the info. I was just wondering if you, and other readers, have heard some people almost swear that the reason we do not have more grouse in Indiana is because Indiana traded some of our grouse for Missouri turkeys many years ago. (I have not yet read the full article to see if that comment was covered.) May all our hunts be safe, enjoyable, and deeply appreciated.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20003 08/25/2013 02:35 PM 08/25/2013 02:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	While Indiana did indeed trade 3 grouse per turkey with Missouri, nearly 90% of those birds were captured in Brown County State Park and Crane Depot (two areas the average grouse hunter can't hunt). By the way the Missouri experiment was a total failure as they have closed their grouse season. The key is habitat. Jack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20004 08/26/2013 05:19 AM 08/26/2013 05:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	Good job jack... the hunting sport I love the most and its all but gone...I no longer have a true bird dog and I haven't shouldered a gun in about 15 years when I did have the rare flush. I hope we get more folks involved in saving this great bird...... tastey Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20005 08/26/2013 06:02 AM 08/26/2013 06:02 AM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 293 Ellettsville G Goosepond_Monster Hoosier Hunter
Goosepond_Monster Hoosier Hunter G Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 293 Ellettsville	I'd be happy just seeing a grouse in the wild. I have watched videos of them drumming and it is quite the spectacle. Willowpine Outdoors Pro Staff

Re: King of game birds in exile #20006 08/26/2013 06:24 AM 08/26/2013 06:24 AM
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,376 Indianapois, IN, USA D delaney Hoosier Hunter
delaney Hoosier Hunter D Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,376 Indianapois, IN, USA	In regard to grouse, I was in Michigan this weekend and they are saying that expect very good numbers this year. "Fishing is like a one night stand, unless you're fly fishing, then you've encountered the romance of your life"

Re: King of game birds in exile #20007 08/26/2013 05:00 PM 08/26/2013 05:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	Jack.. post up the banquet info again. Maybe we can get a few more to join in Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20008 08/26/2013 05:52 PM 08/26/2013 05:52 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	16TH ANNUAL INDIANA CHAPTER CONSERVATION & SPORTSMEN’S BANQUET Saturday, September 7, 2013 Northside K of C 2100 East 71st Street Indianapolis, IN 46220 http://www.ruffedgrousesociety.org/UserFiles/File/IndianapolisIN13.pdf There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20009 08/27/2013 04:46 PM 08/27/2013 04:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	I'll be there.. I'll try and leave the wife behind so I can afford it!!! ( its just a dream).. Anyway.... the rest of guys ought to try and make it as well.. good people good cause.. good food! Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20010 08/27/2013 05:23 PM 08/27/2013 05:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mooresville Indiana W Weedhopper Hoosier Hunter
Weedhopper Hoosier Hunter W Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mooresville Indiana	Gotta work. Brew coffee....not tards

Re: King of game birds in exile #20011 08/27/2013 07:57 PM 08/27/2013 07:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 166 Huntington, IN Breakfast Boy Hoosier Hunter
Breakfast Boy Hoosier Hunter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 166 Huntington, IN	I'm teaching a bowhunter education class that day and can't make it, but the event really is a good time. The one I attended a few years ago, I took my daughter (probably twelve at the time) and she enjoyed it as well. She won a duffle bag for a door prize and was excited about that. Plus you get to see Jack and that's worth the trip alone. "Minds are like parachutes; they work best when open."

Re: King of game birds in exile #20012 08/28/2013 11:53 AM 08/28/2013 11:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	I'll be signing autographs in the lobby... There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20013 08/28/2013 12:08 PM 08/28/2013 12:08 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mooresville Indiana W Weedhopper Hoosier Hunter
Weedhopper Hoosier Hunter W Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mooresville Indiana	Quote Originally posted by HatchetJack: I'll be signing autographs in the lobby... Now I really feel bad..... Brew coffee....not tards

Re: King of game birds in exile #20014 08/28/2013 12:30 PM 08/28/2013 12:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	Dementia has set in.. Quote Originally posted by HatchetJack: I'll be signing autographs in the lobby... Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20015 08/28/2013 05:56 PM 08/28/2013 05:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	Maggie was going to sign but her agent convinced her to hold out for more money considering the injury to her writing paw... There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20016 08/28/2013 06:00 PM 08/28/2013 06:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	It also appears that the Blomington contingent will be asking the legislative summer study to do something about the terrible logging going on in the backcountry area of Morgan-Monroe. I'd ask as many as possible to seriously think about attending the meetings at Spring Mill State Park on October 1 & 2. After they grill Jack Seifert I'm sure the kumabya singing will start... I may have to crash at gundude's house. Jack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20017 08/29/2013 03:45 AM 08/29/2013 03:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	More than welcome to do that! I wouldn't miss this for anything! Time to dust off the sandals and break out the tie dye shirt! Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20018 08/29/2013 08:17 PM 08/29/2013 08:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 166 Huntington, IN Breakfast Boy Hoosier Hunter
Breakfast Boy Hoosier Hunter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 166 Huntington, IN	Jack, I could have gone all day without seeing your dog's wound. Lol! "Minds are like parachutes; they work best when open."

Re: King of game birds in exile #20019 08/30/2013 05:40 AM 08/30/2013 05:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	I think the fact that see didn't see any birds hurt her more than that leg did. There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20020 08/30/2013 04:28 PM 08/30/2013 04:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235 V varmint101 Hoosier Hunter
varmint101 Hoosier Hunter V Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235	I told you to go behind the house! :-) "The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh

Re: King of game birds in exile #20021 08/30/2013 05:22 PM 08/30/2013 05:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	I didn't want to mess up anybody's deer hunt. I may do that this year if I get a chance to come down. I need to get maggie into some preserve birds first or she'll be useless on grouse. Jack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20022 08/30/2013 05:34 PM 08/30/2013 05:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	I know where a few birds are... empty guns only... Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20023 08/31/2013 05:26 PM 08/31/2013 05:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235 V varmint101 Hoosier Hunter
varmint101 Hoosier Hunter V Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235	Let me know if you need an extra Jack! "The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh

Re: King of game birds in exile #20024 09/04/2013 05:29 PM 09/04/2013 05:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20025 09/05/2013 03:14 AM 09/05/2013 03:14 AM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,554 se indiana T THROBAK Hoosier Hunter
THROBAK Hoosier Hunter T Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,554 se indiana	Jack; my boy read the story in OI and now he is looking for some one to buy every tree he has on 40 acres that is worth something to preserve the 4 or 5 grouse he has living there

Re: King of game birds in exile #20026 09/05/2013 09:19 AM 09/05/2013 09:19 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	Keep in mind that the forest is dynamic. The changes we see take a long time to occur but managing the forest is a hard thing to do and keeping those few grouse around would be a godsend. May want to consult with a DNR Forester or Biologist. Jack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20027 09/05/2013 09:21 AM 09/05/2013 09:21 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	16TH ANNUAL INDIANA CHAPTER CONSERVATION & SPORTSMEN’S BANQUET Saturday, September 7, 2013 Northside K of C 2100 East 71st Street Indianapolis, IN 46220 http://www.ruffedgrousesociety.org/UserFiles/File/IndianapolisIN13.pdf There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20028 09/05/2013 09:43 AM 09/05/2013 09:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	5.30pm... old man forgot to post the time... Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20029 09/06/2013 06:29 AM 09/06/2013 06:29 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	Yes, he is getting quite old and worn out. There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20030 09/06/2013 04:51 PM 09/06/2013 04:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	We don't stop playing because we get old... we get old because we stopped playing!!! Dr. Suess...( what a great creative mind he had!! Suck it up cupcake! Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20031 09/06/2013 06:58 PM 09/06/2013 06:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	You sound like my old drill instructor except he didn't call me cupcake... There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20032 09/08/2013 04:34 PM 09/08/2013 04:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	After a highly successful 2013 banquet this guy came home with a new Webley & Scott 20 gauge o/u shotgun. HatchetJack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20033 09/08/2013 04:49 PM 09/08/2013 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	So sorry I wasn't able to make it..needed water.. I hope it went well.. I would have loved to have been there!!!.. I hope we put some coin to a good cause!! Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20034 09/08/2013 06:41 PM 09/08/2013 06:41 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	RGS presented IDNR with a check for over $1300 to be used at the Hardwood Ecosystem Experiment (HEE) which is a 100 year project to demonstrate the effectiveness of proper forest management. On a really good note Jack Seifert told me that the push for a discussion on the logging in the backcountry area has been pulled from the agenda for Spring mill in October!!! Jack P.S. I paid your bill and you can just pay me back when I see you. There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20035 09/09/2013 04:37 AM 09/09/2013 04:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county G gundude Watching Over You All
gundude Watching Over You All G Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,525 owen county	A dollar a month work for you? Lol Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.

Re: King of game birds in exile #20036 09/09/2013 06:21 AM 09/09/2013 06:21 AM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235 V varmint101 Hoosier Hunter
varmint101 Hoosier Hunter V Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235	Let me know if you can't hit anything with it Jack. "The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh

Re: King of game birds in exile #20037 09/09/2013 08:55 AM 09/09/2013 08:55 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	Quote Originally posted by gundude: A dollar a month work for you? Lol Sure...I'm just hoping you live that long... There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20038 09/09/2013 08:57 AM 09/09/2013 08:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa H HatchetJack Moderator
HatchetJack Moderator H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,001 indianapolis,in, usa	Quote Originally posted by varmint101: Let me know if you can't hit anything with it Jack. Well, it's an English gun so probably not... I also got 10 pounds of special grouse seed I'd like you to spread on some of those logging trails or near where you saw those quail. I'll drop it by one day and you can plant next spring. Jack There's a reason I like dogs better'n people... .

Re: King of game birds in exile #20039 09/09/2013 03:20 PM 09/09/2013 03:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235 V varmint101 Hoosier Hunter
varmint101 Hoosier Hunter V Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,726 Freetown, IN 47235	Okay, will do! "The bottom line is, if you shoot something, be proud of it. If you can't be proud of it, don't shoot it. God didn't create any "justs." Neither should bowhunters." -Dwight Schuh

Re: King of game birds in exile #20040 10/09/2013 04:41 AM 10/09/2013 04:41 AM
Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,807 Montgomery County 7 76chevy Hoosier Hunter
76chevy Hoosier Hunter 7 Joined: May 2011 Posts: 2,807 Montgomery County	Very informative and well written story in Outdoor Indiana.

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