Pretty impressive. Although I have never shot a bird past 30 yards, if this would pattern well out of my gun, it may help to have a few more yards to play with. Will not help me at Big Oaks however.

http://www.growingdeer.tv/episode/226/?utm_source=GDTV+226&utm_campaign=GDTV+226&utm_medium=email

Isnt copper covered lead legal? h.h.

At Kankakee F&W area only "non-toxic" loads can be used...found that out last season after I drove 40 miles and got there at 3am...went to sign in, did that went back to the truck for a final coffee sip, forgot to get my card, went back to the booth to get it, and THEN noticed the sign that said only non-toxic shot can be used on this property....CRAP !! ..... I had Win. xx 3" copper plated 5's .....it was a long drive home.....Heavy shot turkey loads is legal there....I had none.....very interesting with these new loads, but it is still just copper plated lead isnt it ?....

No. I just called BO and they said copper plated is still considered lead.

Yes Jeff, it is a copper plated load.

WOW!

I got 4 boxes of 12 ga XX #5 shot for sale...PM Me

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I guess I was illegal then at BO last fall when I killed a deer during the primitive muzzle loader hunt using a patched lead round ball.

Banning lead shot is/was the stupidest rule the feds ever came up with. Another one of those feel/sound good laws that are created to solve a problem that doesn't exit. h.h.

agree

Got it, Shot it today ( 3.5 inch # 5) It is everything they say it is, Outstanding! Shot it to 50 yds and it was good, not that I would want to take a far shot but it would definitely kill em. 20 yards and under would take a head clean off ,IMO. Priced decent compared to some of the other ammo out there too.

old tom is in trouble this spring...



Winchester raised the bar, again!

I saw them at Big R the other day for 17.99 a box but Ive got enough turkey shells to last me the rest of my hunting days.

I counted the other day and Ive got 16 boxes of 12ga lead and heavy shot and 10 boxes of 3" 20 ga lead and heavy shot. All are boxes of 10. That's almost 260 turkey shells to shoot before I'm out.

Lastly if I miss a turkey at 70 yards I can always blame the shell cause I wasnt using Long Beard XR. h.h.

Gonna be a lot of wounded birds this year because of this new load.

I don't see it that way. The xr's out pattern any other shell I ever tried over the last 15 years or so in my 835. It's a good product and I think most turkey hunters understand it's still a copper plated lead load. Another thing though they shoot so tight you better be careful with your aim under 20.

I'll agree that "most turkey hunters" will understand the limitations of this new shell.....but there are those who won't.

I shot several loads over the weekend including l.b's. Heres my results.
Moss 835 28" brl Jellyhead tube

Pellet count measured in a 12" circle at 30 yds

Nitros - 408
Magnum blend - 352
Long beards - 342
Org Rem heavy shot - 276

I understand where you're coming from Weed, the ads don't help either. Bschwein those are some good numbers. LB still in there with the high dollar shells. What size shot for the LB? 3" shells or 3.5"? Thanks.

I would much druther see a Call advertised that will get them Closer than a shell that will kill them farther

Bass Pro has the LB 3" 5's at $19.99...I got 1 box to try the pattern.....

3.5" #6