And "gun hunters" have no issues with bows, most just don't or can't set aside the time to practice and become effective with a bow or to sit and wait for a deer to come to with 30 yards or less. I have never heard ONE gun only hunter complain about Bowhunters. But some hardcore bow whackos bad mouth everything. Even tho most of these "traditionalists" use every modern, god damned mass produced product out there except a gun! Please. Spare us the BS.