I like your style Delaney. I don't engage much with any grass roots organizations lately. You won't catch me on face book either. If we are talking grass roots though the DNR doesn't need just biologists, they need workers and I think some groups could offer volunteer help along with these demands for action on the deer hunting issue. Seen any deterioration in facilities like boat ramps, camping areas, etc? It's about the money in the state budget and also federal in some cases, and there's not much there. Maybe some groups could be organized to assist or even sponsor certain projects. Kind of like gaining access with a farmer and helping with the chores.