thanks for the help so far guys. keep the info coming. as for as the wolverine i was afraid that it is to lite to perfom. i have looked at several makes and models and like i said i want something that is very trail rideable. i just want to try and stay away from the big 700s they are just to big in my opinion. my buddy has a blaster and i really like the speed and agility of it i just want something that can handle the mud and climbs and stuff. thanks, billy