So were we cutting over 15 million board feet pre Mitch? 30 years ago were we cutting more or less? I am asking for info not to argue, but it looks like a lot more cutting than I personally have ever seen. Last grouse I flushed was in a hard cut over in Crawford County probably 8 years ago. I get it, but I believe other drivers are at work here to produce revenue, not just grouse habitat restoration. Lots of groups sue over logging to get their point across....that's the remedy, other than going to meetings and reading prepared statements.