Follow up post, Throbak I got on here this morning and reread. I thought your post was about 10 Amish hunters lining a fence row all with hpr's. The visual cracked me up. Kind of like the electric Amish on Q95. My apologies if it hit you wrong as I understand your point. I have fished lakes and observed habits on crappie and I travel in Amish country. They can be tough on fish and game. Although the visual cracked me up I understand it's your reality and it's not a laughing matter. No offense intended.