A few points...

States like Missouri, Kentucky and Indiana make gun seasons in November work....Even Illinois' firearms season start in mid-November.

Plus, we all know that shutting down November isn't going to happen. Period.

So that leaves us @ the same point we've been arguing over for the last 6 years....

Will Indiana change the start dates of the firearms season @ some point? Perhaps, but I don't see it happening as long as the firearms hunters continue to purchase/fill the vast majority of tags and as such, actually manage the herd. Even with crossbow inclusion, archery hunters are still stuck in the low/mid 20% of total harvest range, which is where it was in 2011 before the new regs took effect.

And that isn't going to get it done...