many of the NON's are hunting with outfitters or on choice private lands where landowners can control what is taken I'm sure.... plus they are here only for a short time.. there are other properties where the brown and down crowd hammer anything that moves, like on the Fish and Wildlife areas and other state lands/fed. lands... heck, many private lands are like that from what I hear, they just HAVE to fill those tags... of course to some "farmers" deer to them are nothing but YUUUge rats/pests, when in fact much damage is cause by 'coons and squirrels .... heck, Ive seen where muskrats and even beaver had leveled patches in corn fields along creeks ... If you have property where your trying to manage it, and allow for an older class deer and have some brown and downers next to ya, you can be screwed ... also there is a YUUUUge difference between the Northern and southern portion of this state ....