Thanks Brew......... so the REAL damage that has been done is not exactly as John Scrifes has reported. "One Year" math as he put out there is a clever way to obfuscate what has really happened since 2012. If you take 136,000 deer in 2012 and in 2017 we take around 110,000 deer........ that's a 20% reduction in our harvest from where we started (and will continue to plummet with the same regs in place since the damage compounds over time). And 2016 shows that 75.5% of that harvest was taken with some type of a gun.

Now.......... you tell me.......... do we have a BUNCH less deer? Do we have a BUNCH more days to hunt them with a gun (30+ days)? Do we now have all the weapons we want with a BUNCH more range? Do we have a BUNCH of people sick of what has happened?

Hornharvester was right......... reduction in gun days is coming to a town near you.

The truly sad thing is this 20% reduction in our harvest is not evenly spread out. Some areas are well over 50% reduction while some areas remain steady as they are being protected from the IDNR "Madness Regs". The areas of over harvest continue to plummet, and reduce hunter participation.......and the areas that are protected from this craziness are managing to survive, but much smaller in acreage than those large vast parcels that are shot to pieces.

Bottom line..... the "managers have deer"...... and a huge portion of the state is shot to H E L L ..... and you wonder why the majority is going to rise up against the weapon/season that is causing the most damage.