We posted this a few days ago on our FB page to answer a gentlemans question:

Thank you for calling your regional biologist, glad he listened. Great, lucky you even have one since there are now only 10 instead of 21. Did you call the Governor Eric Holcomb, legislators, news media, social media. Post your constructive ideas here? Well here is just a little we have done in the last three years.
• Spend $30,000 out of our pockets , just a rough estimate.
• Formed a group with bylaws we didn’t even need to jump through some imaginary Hoop to get a seat on the FWCC, that is basically worthless and been the same few talking heads for decades now. Pounding their chest feeling important, but have you or anyone you know even know about the FWCC, what it is, been asked your opinion on the issues, been briefed after the fact on any issues???
• Manned booths at Hunting shows and spoke at those shows.
• Developed a group that reaches towards 300,000 people some weeks, 19, 000 Facebook followers, more than either Governor, and between 2000-2500 members that have filled out a membership form for inclusion in the group at no cost.
• We have spoken with most CO's and regional biologists in this state. As well as Dr. James Krolll whom formulated the idea of CDAC's in Wisconsin. We have talked with Wisconsin DNR. We have talked with Governor Walker's' appointed Vice Chair of their NRB. We facilitated him coming to Indianapolis to meet the DNR and DFW Directors with us.
• We have written millions of words. Contacted all kinds of media and outdoor venues. Written Letters, Emails, Facebook Messages with most Legislators and two Governors.
• We have met with DNR-DFW twice.
• We have met with many legislators, driving all over the state for a few minute to one hour meetings.
• We have met the Governor's Senior Policy Adviser, but that was a ruse, because we have in house information from DNR Staff and CO's that She wanted us to tell them the names of our confidential informants, that are all verified with second sources. We have these same people telling us we are spot on on everything we say. Jeopardizing their very livelihood at jobs they love.
• We have requested information under the freedom of information act in 2016 and sorted through thousands of pages and graphs.
• We were informed confidentially of in house emails that will enlighten you and others. We have requested them under the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, after already reading them from our informants but desiring a copy to publicize. Just last week we had to file a complaint with the PAC office, as we still have not received on piece of information requested.
• We piloted 10 County Deer Advisory Councils in 10 different counties, involving all stakeholders at the expense of hundreds of man hours. All these meetings and such were vacation time and economic loss from our family budgets to accomplish this. The DNR DFW Directors agreed to use the results of these pilots and then did not.
• The stakeholders meeting we have posted in part and in whole so many times I cannot even count. The emails with the invitation, and our response. Three deer stakeholders sat at the table and was part of a preconceived presentation for the next 3-5 year management plan.
• Did you get an invitation, email, see it on the news or in papers, see it on DNR DFW DLE webpages or social medial. So, when we asked a legitimate question of whom are the people at the table representing and approximately how many deer hunters were being represented at the table, the director had his outburst to distract from answering the simple question, that all stakeholders had a right to know.
• Their own presentation and own testimony to our questions state that they use hunter and landowner surveys in their science. Though as of that day, 5/8/17, they had not assessed data from those surveys done in 2013 or 2016. Not only did they not assess them to see how much impact was being done in the reduction management plan the last five years, they still had not assessed them for the next 3-5 year plan they were presenting that very evening. All out of their own mouth.
• They talked about an urban plan for overpopulated deer in Beverly Shores near the Dunes. They to date had threw $55,000 at the problem, and at the time of the meeting on 5/8/17, they could only confirm 15 dead deer in 3 years with $55,000. 15 !!!!!!!!!! Joe Bacon from the IDHA, one at the table in talking about the program said it was a good idea. It is in the video. Unedited. This would fund CDAC's for all stakeholders in all counties for 50 years to a century. So now we are pointing all this out for all the stakeholders that were not invited to the meeting or represented in any way for the preconceived management plan.
• The three at the table were thanked for being there and their input and working with the DNR DFW five years ago to develop the reduction plan. How many know about that, or where invited to that stakeholder meeting, or were briefed after that meeting? Have even now any knowledge of that meeting?
• They have no data at all from forest depredation by deer!
• They manipulate the deer/vehicle collision data to make sense of harvests already complete. Not apples to apples in per billion or million miles traveled in the areas.
• They do not have accurate crop depredation data!
• The harvest structure in their SAK model is not existent, due to electronic check in without biological assessment.
* If you correlate the quota.s for total land mass and deer habitat in each county and the quotas set, there is no correlation what soever, even statistically.
*One of the board of directors has a farm in Parke County. All the counties around it were reduced to a 4 or less. Parke county was kept at an 8. This after the most vocal of the group, used Parke County as an example of the overharvest after years of EHD outbreaks and such. Is theree a correlation. Why does the counties around Parke with similar geopgrahy and deer numbers all have quota's half of Parke????
• They have no idea of prevalence of disease as hundreds to thousands of deer die due to disease that are never checked by the DNR even if reported.
• They have no population estimates in any geographical location county region or statewide period. They also state they never will. Nor do they have any goals as to what population levels they desire in any county.
• If you look at their presentation they state the objective was to maintain the herd levels with <3 bonus antlerless permits per county. They got the nod for approval from the “stakeholders” at the table all three of them. Which this would end the late antlerless season, that was put in place temporarily for herd reduction. Yet when they came out with the Quota map the state is covered with quotas of 4-8 retaining the late antlerless season. So with no science just playing number for a foregone conclusion, they set these quotas.
So if informing the public about this, and so much more we have uncovered along the way, we are wrong well Tim Freeze thanks for your opinion. IF that is really your name. We have caught and the talking head at the table have admitted to using fake names to spread their misinformation via the internet. Then lying and saying we banned him. No we banned a fake account of a fake person. He has commented on our page many times, though usually misinformation, we have not banned Mr. Bacon or anyone else. So if this is you Joe, let us know, you don’t have to hide. We cannot hunt, lol. We have fooled people to say the same things from all walks of life over our entire state, lol. Keep up the good work Tim Freeze, but if you do not know what we are doing and where we have been, educate yourself first please. You can go back for three years of posts and see it all. We informed every step of the way brother. To the best of our ability all posts are in individuals own words and name. Of course it has been hard with people like Mr. Bacon using fake accounts instead of standing up for his leadership of Indiana deer hunters, that represent maybe 200 people. Is not longer and organization, nor nonprofit per the Office of the Secretary of state. The bank account is in his name dba IDHA. Ironically he is the one that stated we must have bylaws and a membership to exist. We have that in writing too, but he cannot follow his own rules. He is still sitting on the FWCC after resigning 5 years ago, but per their memorandum of understanding if a group leaves the FWCC it has to repetition which it never has. Also by their own admission they market their “association” saying they have a paid lobbyist as being a part of a larger organization. However, when asked that is not true either.