We are both vermin, left unchecked humans will kill and eat everything in sight, deer left unchecked will eat everything in sight and die of starvation in front yards. The managing department has established a sustainable herd where hunters are the primary controlling factor. If the numbers grow farmers and auto drivers (Insurance Companies) are going to plead for higher kill rates and more reduction. With these driving factors in our governing bodies its never going to change. These threads are simply a dumping place for frustrated hunters whose voice is only heard here. Just enjoy what you have, take what you need, and protect what is left.