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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47582
09/18/2015 10:09 AM
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So to date we have ONE positive test on a WILD Deer and multi positive in captive/tame Deer samples...with multi test being done in the wild Deer Herd...thanks for update!!


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47583
09/18/2015 10:40 AM
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The multiple tests are still our without results to date.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47584
09/18/2015 10:49 AM
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Thought they(DNR)had already tested and had results from a Parke CO. Wild Deer!!!


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47585
09/20/2015 08:13 AM
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Wasting everyones time Brew go back to your beer.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47586
09/20/2015 08:36 AM
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I knew you wouldn't want to discuss the facts.... Keep Trolling!!!


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47587
09/20/2015 11:12 AM
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Dead is dead, not sure why everybody cares if it is ehd or not. Look at their facebook page of all of the posts from people finding deer. Does it matter what they died from?


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47588
09/20/2015 12:07 PM
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Don't be fooled...... Not all those deer are WILD Deer!!!
There not telling that part of the story.... Same as the lab reports !!!
BTW..... Road kills equate to more dead deer then EHD ever does.


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47589
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Got a Question With all the EHD seemingly Farm deer the majority wouldn't that be a concern to the wild herd in the area or is it a farm only problem

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47590
09/21/2015 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by BREW...:
Don't be fooled...... Not all those deer are WILD Deer!!!
There not telling that part of the story.... Same as the lab reports !!!
BTW..... Road kills equate to more dead deer then EHD ever does.
Exactly it is a deer farm page as I come to find out

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47591
09/21/2015 04:52 AM
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One confirmed case of EHD and we have a thread 6 pages long... Sheesh....

EHD happens EVERY YEAR, so it is not big of a deal unless it is a major outbreak like we had a few years back....

And so what if it happens on a deer farm... The more, the merrier IMO... Don't care one bit if it wipes out a deer farm or wipes them all out...

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47592
09/21/2015 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by Bryan78:
One confirmed case of EHD and we have a thread 6 pages long... Sheesh....

EHD happens EVERY YEAR, so it is not big of a deal unless it is a major outbreak like we had a few years back....

And so what if it happens on a deer farm... The more, the merrier IMO... Don't care one bit if it wipes out a deer farm or wipes them all out...
While harsh a lot of truth here has been stated.

EHD is a killer of deer every single year...in some cases does reach epidemic status in wild deer herds...however judging from the extremely limited reports in the WILD DEER herd population it would seem this year has not been any more severe than an average year...and I pray it stays that way!

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47593
09/21/2015 07:53 AM
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I don't care one way or the other. All I was saying is there are several people on their website sending in pics of dead deer in many different counties. I didn't think there were that many captive deer farms, just seems like ordinary hunters sending in pics to me. IMO IWDHM is documenting a lot better than the DNR ever has and I will say if you only go by what the DNR test/reports you are missing the boat big time. Been there, done that.


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47594
09/21/2015 10:57 AM
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To be fair many folks are sending in pictures of dead deer without having any idea what caused its death.

Without a verified cause of death that is exactly what you have .... a bunch of pictures of dead deer. Its not really documentation of anything else.

There is not even proof the deer were found dead in Indiana. Not implying that they werent but as far as documenting anything there would need to be more than a picture submitted over the web.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47595
09/21/2015 04:09 PM
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All you big mouth keyboard cowards were invited and failed to even show up to the deer summitt to bring hunters and deer enthusiasts together. Not one of you showed or sent a rep with any constructive conversation items. Yet you continue on here with critisism and inuendos. EHD periorbital edema, hemorrahing, hence water seeking behaviour. Pics, videos, boots on the ground bringing these reports with more coming from wild than the deer farms but irrelevant. As is this constant bickering by those that care to do nothing for conservation than bitch. May God help us all as we lose what so many conservationists bleed for. Thanks though Cody for the beacon of hope.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47596
09/21/2015 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by s_wilk:
To be fair many folks are sending in pictures of dead deer without having any idea what caused its death.

Without a verified cause of death that is exactly what you have .... a bunch of pictures of dead deer. Its not really documentation of anything else.

There is not even proof the deer were found dead in Indiana. Not implying that they werent but as far as documenting anything there would need to be more than a picture submitted over the web.
+1....well stated


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47597
09/22/2015 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by GaryWalters:
All you big mouth keyboard cowards were invited and failed to even show up to the deer summitt to bring hunters and deer enthusiasts together. Not one of you showed or sent a rep with any constructive conversation items. Yet you continue on here with critisism and inuendos. EHD periorbital edema, hemorrahing, hence water seeking behaviour. Pics, videos, boots on the ground bringing these reports with more coming from wild than the deer farms but irrelevant. As is this constant bickering by those that care to do nothing for conservation than bitch. May God help us all as we lose what so many conservationists bleed for. Thanks though Cody for the beacon of hope.
I informed Dave of why I did not make it, and apologized perpetually. I didn't even inform where I was staying intime to get back anything. Life through a curveball and basically blew up in my face late last week and made the Deer Summit not the highest priority; few things outweigh hunting but God and family are most definitely gonna win each time. However, I unlike others have not bickered so your comment may not have been directed at me, but I felt the need to explain at least why I was unable to make it.

As for the EHD, Gary I know in pockets it can be a HUGE factor for herd depletion. I have friends in Kansas, Missouri and Michigan that have seen and found 10 deer to an acre in years past dead along rivers/creeks/ponds (all wild herds)...and I am praying Indiana never experiences it to that degree. I know atleast in my area it has been very quiet for it, and when you think about it even all the suspected cases reported to the DNR it seems like a fairly common year...but I would need to ask for records of reports from years past to state that for certain.

Also Gary, to lead means to gather enemies or those that disagree with you or argue with you at times. You've told me numerous times in our private messages you are a man of faith, I know firsthand when speaking on things of what we care immensely for we can lose our cool...but we must try. Calling others cowards or implying their frauds discredits your goals to an extent.

Blessings and as I told Dave, I pray the Summit brought an understanding to all you went from any stance or opinion.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47598
09/22/2015 05:08 AM
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You're on here for 2 months and now indiscriminately calling us cowards? I bet I have more miles on my boots than you in any given year. And it's almost exclusively on federal and state forestry lands, not on an ATV puttering around papaws back 40 or a pricey lease. EHD report from the southern Shawnee escarpment is nill, ready to enjoy deer season. Suggest you tone down the rhetoric and do the same Gary Walters.


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47599
09/22/2015 05:31 AM
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Gary,

I thought about coming to the event, but my son had a cross country meet which I would much rather have attended. But even if my schedule had been clear, I had already made up my mind not to show up as I frankly don't care for the way you and your group treat the employees of the DNR or any other group or individual that you don't agree with.

You accuse others of being "big mouth keyboard cowards", yet ironically the above personal attack on members here occurred via the very medium you chastise others for using...

And while I'm not 100% happy with everything that the DNR and NRC has done (and likely will do), in the the end, they are educated professionals who I respect and ultimately support.

Finally....since you are so concerned about the deer herd, why don't you back up those concerns by sitting out the deer season this year and ask every one of your "followers" to do the same?

Just think of the deer you could save.....

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47600
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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47601
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Originally posted by GaryWalters:
All you big mouth keyboard cowards ...
I have had my share of disagreements with members of this forum and other forums. Heck I've had disagreements on deer hunting with some of my closest friends. At the end of the day though I respect every one of them and we try to treat each other pretty civil.

You sir have crossed the line in many posts that I have read on this forum and your above post is the epitome of self righteousness and disrespect towards fellow sportsmen. You have defined you yourself by the very content of your own words as EVERYTHING that we (as hunters, fishers, trappers, and general outdoor enthusiasts) have agreed will be the end of us and what we love. It is you and those like you that are self-destroying hunting ... not so much by your beliefs ... but more by your disrespect and lack of support for fellow sportsman.

You would do all of us as hunters a huge favor by crawling back under the rock that you came from.

It is one thing to disagree with others, it is another to be that disrespectful that you resort to the 5th grade level that which you have stooped repeatedly. Take your ball and go home, this play ground doesn't need or want you.


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Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47602
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I notified Dave as well .... I had hoped for an afternoon starting time but when the morning time was finalized I let him know I would be unable to attend.

Re: Possible new 2015 EHD outbreak. #47603
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I for one am going to distance myself as far as I Can from that group You can't be condesendi nng of your peers like that and be any good for anything I also am tired of the disrespect

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