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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33087
01/10/2013 09:26 AM
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I’ve seen other examples of this in the past. In this case it’s not forced.
From the article:
"If we can prevent just one child, one innocent bystander, from being the victim of a random accident or the target of an unstable person, it will be well worth our time and effort," added Constantine.
This sounds like a noble idea – afterall who could argue with such a wonderful sounding sentiment?

For most in the gun control lobby, however, they are ALWAYS so short sighted and almost never consider the consequences. They fail to realize that crime increases in other ways when regular people aren’t allowed to defend themselves. I would argue the opposite: If the freedom to responsibly posses and carry firearms saves the life of just one potential victim, it will be worth it.

From the hardened liberals’ viewpoint, they do consider the consequences and are not concerned with new crime afterward. Their goal is to disarm the population to control them.

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33088
01/10/2013 01:23 PM
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Yawn...
Glad i dont own any... i dont any hammers or sharp pencils. Either!!!

I know a guy whos son was murdered with a bowling ball!!! True story.. glad i dont own one of those


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33089
01/10/2013 06:41 PM
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let's say I have this cake. It is a very nice cake, with "GUN RIGHTS" written across the top in lovely floral icing. I received it from the 2nd amendment and the Dick act of 1902.

Along you come and say, "Give me that cake." I say, "No, it's my cake." You say, "Let's compromise. Give me half." I respond by asking what I get out of this compromise, and you reply that I get to keep half of my cake.

Okay, we compromise. Let us call this compromise The National Firearms Act of 1934.
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There I am with my half of the cake, and you walk back up and say, "Give me that cake."

I say, "No, it's my cake."

You say, "Let's compromise." What do I get out of this compromise? Why, I get to keep half of what's left of the cake I already own.

So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Gun Control Act of 1968 -- and I'm left holding what is now just a quarter of my cake.

And I'm sitting in the corner with my quarter piece of cake, and here you come again. You want my cake. Again.

You say, "Let's compromise once more." What do I get out of this compromise? I get to keep one eighth of what's left of the cake I already own?

So, we have your compromise -- let us call this one the Machine gun ban of 1986 -- and I'm left holding what is now just an eighth of my cake.

I sit back in the corner with just my eighth of cake that I once owned outright and completely, I glance up and here you come once more.

You say nothing and just grab my cake; This time you take several bites -- we'll call this compromise the Clinton Executive Orders -- and I'm left with about a tenth of what has always been MY **** CAKE and you've got nine-tenths of it.

Then we compromised with the Lautenberg Act (nibble, nibble), the HUD/Smith and Wesson agreement (nibble, nibble), the Brady Law (NOM NOM NOM), the School Safety and Law Enforcement Improvement Act (sweet tap-dancing Freyja, my finger!)

I'm left holding crumbs of what was once a large and satisfying cake, and you're standing there with most of MY CAKE, making anime eyes and whining about being "reasonable", and wondering "why we won't compromise".

I'm done with being reasonable, and I'm done with compromise. Nothing about gun control in this country has ever been "reasonable" nor a genuine "compromise".


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33090
01/11/2013 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by gundude:
Yawn...
Glad i dont own any... i dont any hammers or sharp pencils. Either!!!

I know a guy whos son was murdered with a bowling ball!!! True story.. glad i dont own one of those
I Knew a Guy who Knew a Guy who had a bowling ball cannon..... eek

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33091
01/11/2013 03:00 AM
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I sold it.. wish i didnt.. that thing was fun!!
Filling it full of golf balls waa a little scary...


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33092
01/11/2013 07:14 AM
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Vice President Biden was wrapping up a week of meetings Friday as he prepares to finalize his plan to curb gun violence -- but the National Rifle Association claims the meetings are just a show, while the administration presses ahead with new gun-control measures.
The NRA, which sat down with Biden's task force alongside other gun-owner groups Thursday, said it was "disappointed" with "how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment."
While the administration has said the task force will look at a range of issues to address gun violence in the wake of the Connecticut school shooting -- from mental health to the entertainment industry -- the NRA said Thursday's discussion focused "on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners -- honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans."
Separately, NRA President David Keene in an interview said Biden was just "checking a box."
Biden was rounding out the week Friday afternoon by meeting representatives from the video-game industry. The NRA and other groups, pushing back against calls for new firearms restrictions, have urged Washington to take a close look at violent video games and the role they might play in violence among adolescents.
The night before, Biden met with representatives from the entertainment industry. Those groups released a statement late Thursday, without saying whether any legislative proposals had been discussed.
"The entertainment community appreciates being included in the dialogue around the administration's efforts to confront the complex challenge of gun violence in America," said the statement from the Motion Picture Association of America and several other groups. "This industry has a longstanding commitment to provide parents the tools necessary to make the right viewing decisions for their families. We welcome the opportunity to share that history and look forward to doing our part to seek meaningful solutions."
Biden says he plans to have a set of proposals on President Obama's desk by Tuesday.
He gave a glimpse into what was being considered this week, and the list included "universal" background checks for gun purchases. He said this would include not just closing the so-called gun show loophole but imposing background checks for all transactions, including private sales.
He also said, "I've never heard quite as much about the need to do something about high-capacity magazines as I've heard spontaneously from every group that we've met with so far."
Obama and other Democratic lawmakers are already pushing for a renewed assault-weapons ban, but Biden suggested there could be growing support for at least a ban on high-capacity magazines.
At the same time, the White House has dismissed calls by the NRA to draft a national school security plan to install armed officers at every school in the country. The White House has suggested that plan would not be effective.
But the NRA and other firearms group say the same about proposed restrictions on certain weapons types, noting that assault weapons are not often used in the commission of violent crimes -- handguns are more common.
Biden also drew complaints from Republican lawmakers when he suggested Wednesday, while meeting with gun control groups, that the administration might go around Congress to implement some provisions.
"There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken," Biden said. He also said separate legislative action would be "required."
"Vice President Biden would do well to read the 2nd Amendment and revisit the meaning of the phrase 'shall not be infringed,'" Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., said in a statement. "Bypassing Congress to implement radical policies is never acceptable."

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33093
01/11/2013 01:17 PM
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The way I see it is this.... Biden can have the all the "meetings" in the world about gun violence if he wants but if he thinks for one second that the gaming or motion picture industry is going sit back and let their profits get hurt by this then he has another thing coming...

They will be suing so fast claiming First Amendment rights are being violated it won't be funny and they will win in court while we lose our 2nd Amendment rights... But I think this nothing more then a circus act just to sell the gun control aspect of this or they would have went after the gaming and motion picture industry years ago...

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33094
01/17/2013 07:27 AM
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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33095
01/19/2013 04:23 AM
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Wow ! Tried to go to the big Indy 1500 gun show yesterday, got there right at 2PM when they opened and there was a half mile line of people three or four abreast lined up to get into the place and cars still flooding into the parking lots. We drove right by.

Went to south side to Bradis gun shop on Hwy 67 and they have almost no inventory lefy, I'd guess maybe 75% of their stuff is gone, and very limited ammmo supply.

This president and the discussions regarding gun control really have people spooked.

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33096
01/19/2013 05:55 AM
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As a former gun dealer i say good for them..its a cash cow and they are cashing in on it. You would too..

Prices will go down in a couple of months im bettin


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33097
01/19/2013 12:05 PM
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Wow ! Tried to go to the big Indy 1500 gun show yesterday, got there right at 2PM when they opened and there was a half mile line of people three or four abreast lined up to get into the place and cars still flooding into the parking lots. We drove right by.

Went to south side to Bradis gun shop on Hwy 67 and they have almost no inventory lefy, I'd guess maybe 75% of their stuff is gone, and very limited ammmo supply.

This president and the discussions regarding gun control really have people spooked.
Well went to the Indy1500 and waited for an hour to get in... Heard Friday that the Fire Marshall shut the doors and wouldn't let anymore people in due to it being filled to capacity...

Today was the biggest showing in history of the Indy1500 show... Over 10,000 people expected to go today alone when on average they have 10,000 for the whole three days!!!

Folks, Obama doesn't have to ban guns with the prices I saw today.... Most people would be priced out because of him...

On average:
AR15's = $1500 to $2500
AK's = $1000 and up
SKS's = $800 and up
M1 Garand's = $1000 and up
Hi-Point 9mm Carbine rifle = Over $500 bucks

AR 30rd mags = $10 (for plastic) to $50 (metal, new) I bought a used 30 rd one for $25
AK 30rd mags = $20 to $40
AK 40rd mags = $40 and up
AR drums = $180 and up
AK drums = $180 and up (could have bought a broken one for $40)

Don't even get me started on how much ammo was.... OMG was it way over priced.... The cheapest I saw 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 go for was $400...

Folks, whatever you spent on your gun collection, you could easily get double or triple return on your investment.

Re: Good Gun Control Read #33098
01/19/2013 01:41 PM
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$50 for 525 rounds of. 22LR!!

Was $18 a month ago!


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33099
01/19/2013 01:56 PM
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Wait a couple months...things will be back to normal. I hope... :rolleyes:


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Re: Good Gun Control Read #33100
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