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Bill would raise some state DNR fees #32533
03/14/2017 02:15 PM
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Niki Kelly | The Journal Gazette


http://www.journalgazette.net/news/local/indiana/Bill-would-raise-some-state-DNR-fees-18245923


INDIANAPOLIS - Some fees imposed by the Indiana Department of Natural Resources could rise under a bill approved by a Senate panel Monday.

House Bill 1415 also clarifies new rules on what high-powered rifles can be used during deer hunting season.

It passed unanimously and now moves to the full Senate.

The bill reclassified more than a dozen commercial fees as "minimum fees" and gave the appointed Natural Resources Commission permission to raise them.

Sam Hyer, of the agency, said many other fees - including recreational hunting and fishing licenses - are already handled this way.

He said some of the fees in question haven't been raised since the 1960s.

For instance, the commercial fishing fee is now only $4 compared to $17 for recreational fishing.

Other fees that could be affected include fur buyer, bait dealer, fish stocking, ditch reconstruction and falconry.

"We're just trying to keep up with the cost of doing business," Hyer said.

Another section of the legislation tries to clarify the type of rifle that can be used in deer hunting.

Shelbyville Rep. Sean Eberhart said last year's bill had a list of rifle calibers that would be legal but the list was incomplete and confusing for many hunters.

House Bill 1415 says:

- the rifle must have a barrel length of at least 16 inches.

- the rifle must be chambered for a cartridge that is .243 of an inch in diameter or larger.

- the rifle must fire a cartridge that has a minimum case length of 1.16 inches.

The second section regarding cartridge size is the provision that has been simplified under the new legislation.

Barbara Simpson, of the Indiana Wildlife Federation, testified that she believes the law needs to have an upper limit on the rifles and caliber that can be used.

"I don't think it should be open-ended with anything goes," she said. "It's a public safety issue."

But Eberhart noted there weren't any injuries related to the new rifle rules during the most recent hunting season.

He also said there are no limits on what kind of caliber can be used on a nuisance animal - for instance a coyote or a squirrel.

Members of the Senate Natural Resources Committee also removed part of the bill that would have given discounted licenses to any veteran rated with any disability.

The fiscal impact would have been lost revenue for the Division of Fish and Wildlife of $318,000. It also would have cost the state about the same in federal dollars because when a state offers a free or heavily discounted license it affects their eligibility to receive matching funds.

The overall loss to the state under the provision would have been $635,000.

The language was placed in the bill by a Democrat on second reading in the House.


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Re: Bill would raise some state DNR fees #32534
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Quote: "Another section of the legislation tries to clarify the type of rifle that can be used in deer hunting."

That's interesting they say "tries to clarify". More accurate would be "drastically expands" :rolleyes:


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03/17/2017 03:12 AM
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Anyone know how much does a license have to cost for the Fed money to kick in?


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03/18/2017 03:33 PM
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About $2.75...


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The Senate Appropriations Committee has scheduled a hearing for HB 1415 (along with 6 other bills). The hearing starts Thursday March 23 at 9:00 AM in Room 431. HB 1415 is listed number 6 by numerical order. I do not know for sure if that is the order for the bills to be heard.


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Bill - you going? I got company from Ky so I got to skip this one.

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Today HB 1415 passed (without amendment) the Senate Appropriations Committee. The vote was 10 yes and 1 no. Next step is consideration by the full Senate.

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2017/bills/house/1415#document-b1ebce82


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I believe HB 1415 will pass the full Senate. However, the bill includes an amendment that adds a maximum acceptable case length of 3 inches for cartridges fired in rifles used for Indiana deer hunting. The minimum case length of 1.16 inches remains unchanged, as does the minimum bullet diameter of 0.243 inches. There is no maximum bullet diameter specified.

Thus, with the amendment it appears that the bill will need to go to a conference committee of House and Senate members to reconcile differences between the bills passed by the respective legislative houses.

My guess is that the final product will include the maximum case length of 3 inches. This amendment would effectively eliminate rifles chambered for such cartridges as 50 BMG (Browning Machine Gun). Also, a few relatively new and old sporting cartridges originally designed for really big game (such as elephant, rhino, and buffalo) would be eliminated for hunting Indiana deer. However, the number of Indiana hunters “inconvenienced” by such a rule is extremely small.


See link: http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2017/bills/house/1415#document-8d87bb5b

Check language in bottom few lines on page 4 and top few lines of page 5.


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HB 1415 passed the full Senate this afternoon. The vote was 41 for and 8 against.


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Delph, Tomes, and Young voted against this. Very curious.

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2017/bills/house/1415#


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