Guess I'll have to arm up.

Me thinks that change was made to ensure this DOESNT pass.

Dave we can only hope !

Here is the link to all of the actual language in HB 1231, as amended by the Senate on February 29. This printing is dated today, March 1, which is the date that the bill goes to Third Reading in the Senate. The Senate proceedings should start around 10:30 AM with several bills to be considered besides HB 1231. If HB 1231 fails today it is dead. If it passes it goes to a conference committee of selected Senators and Representatives.

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/bills/house/1231#document-92de30fb

You should be able to watch the live Senate Chamber webcast today. It may be a while until HB 1231 is called up.

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/senate

Nothing in the Hoosier Nat. ?? lol..... I pity those who hunt the F&W areas down there, esp. the smaller properties... So the Rambo's will be able to hit the State forest lands to 'eh .... all I can do is SMH .....

Bill just passed 26-24.

Smh

Can this possibly get any worse?? Not talking about the ballistics of the whole thing, but the process is just a joke.

What a train wreck ... LOL.

Why even have the DNR ???

Let me get this straight, high powered rifles will be legal on state owned (public) land, but illegal on private property?

As written, yes. But it still has to go to conference committee, and you can just about guarantee that the bill's author will want private ground re-added.

Wow, gotta love politics... thanks M4

Yeah id say this isnt even close to being finished. They'll change it again a few times im sure.

They have one chance to correct this in conference committee.

Actually they have 2 chances if the author agrees to the amendments.

when will this be final one way or another??

The NBA has weighed in and they support this legislation. I got this from them......


House Bill 1231, which passed the Indiana House of Representatives by a resounding 91-0 vote and the Senate by a 26-24 vote, will soon be heading to conference committee.

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HB 1231 would greatly expand deer hunting opportunities in Indiana by directing the Indiana Department of Natural Resources (DNR) to establish a rifle season for deer hunting.  Under the current bill, DNR may not authorize more than four annual rifle seasons for deer hunting in order to assess the impact of these additional hunting seasons.  The addition of a rifle season would make hunting more accessible and enhance hunter retention and recruitment efforts in the state.

Your NRA supports allowing Hoosiers to join the millions of hunters who safely hunt with rifles every year across the country, contributing to wildlife conservation while feeding their families and preserving America’s proud outdoor heritage.

NRA, sorry autocorrect got me.

Why not, the NRA supported crossbows....wonder if they support that new fangled air powered harpoon gun .... I got this yesterday in my NRA alerts...

House conferees listed:

http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2016/committees/conference_committee_for_hb_1231#document-92de30fb

Conference committee meets today at 9am

Well, that was mostly unexpected.

They have opened it back up to state wide, no height requirement, 243,30-30, 300,30-06, 308 caliber's only, private ground. Ten rounds of ammo in gun.

So what happens now Jack? Does it go back to the House for a vote and then Senate for a vote?

It is in a Conference Committee... I believe if it gets hashed out, then it goes to the Governor...

Next step now that they have conferred I think it goes back to the House of origin for another vote.

Wonder why those specific calibers now? Initially wasn't it 243 and larger?

Yes, it was.

NOW they are picking specific calibers.... ?? This is almost better than last nights debate ...what a bunch of dolts, I'm tellin ya...Look, I'm not overly fond of rifles in this state, but this is beyond stupid... I mean, IF they are going to ok this, there are so many great deer calibers out there for those that want to use rifles.... so, would this mean, that those that have the specialized wildcat calibers in their flat tops, now wont be able to use 'em ??.... what about the Ruger M77's chambered in .44 mags ? ...All the lever actions out there in .44's and .357 mags ??....These guys can screw up a wet...well you know....stupid, stupid stupid !!

It is too bad the people who are making this law either dont understand or know rifle calibers....legalize the .243 and .308 yet leave out the .260 Remington and 7mm08 which use the same case as the .243 and .308 but use different sized bullets. h.h.

Exactly, they ok the 300 win, but not these ^^ ?? stupid, stupid, stupid !! .....as I said, what about the other calibers already used ?? stupid, stupid, stupid !!

Closer we get to March 14th the more likely this dies and goes to summer study.

Anybody have a clue why they dropped the purple paint clause? That was about the only thing in here that made sense.

Jack

Summer study ?...that is where this belongs !!

Compromises and "stepping stones". Look how many times IDNR has used that approach regarding hunting tools for deer hunting and how much controversy has been generated among deer hunters. Look at how many stepping stones have been used in bows, crossbows, muzzle loading firearms, shotguns, centerfire handguns, and centerfire rifles.

They felt that if you didn't have the purple paint up it would give the impression it was ok to trespass.

The .300 may be .300 AAC Blackout. Until the actual bill is printed, we can only speculate.

My guess is .300 Win Mag.

My guess is that it will be anything 30 caliber

So, what is the reasoning that they are leaving out some fantastic whitetail calibers ... so, its ok to use a .300 win, but not a .270 win and it is ok to use a .243 and not a .260 rem ... talking about some dam idiots ... SMH

They're winning again.....