HB1208
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03/13/2015 04:54 PM
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No committee meetings of import this week but I did notice that HB1208 passed the House and is in the Senate Natural Resources Committee. This bill requires DNR to establish a lottery for an additional 100 antlered licenses as the prize. Now 100 licenses won't make much difference in the greater scheme of things but I have learned that once that camel's nose is under the tent you never know what to expect. Contact your Senator now if you enjoy the one buck rule. http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2015/bills/house/1208#document-bbf02d55 Hatchet P.S. This thing passed the House by a whopping 93-1 vote. Passed Senate Natural Resources Committee by 6-0.
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Re: HB1208
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03/13/2015 08:04 PM
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Doubt that my legislator will listen, but I sent an email asking for a no vote.
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Re: HB1208
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03/14/2015 01:17 PM
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Talk to a few folks today and this one is a done deal...
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Re: HB1208
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03/14/2015 03:58 PM
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I can't type the words that I would like to use to describe many of our legislators today.
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Re: HB1208
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03/14/2015 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by delaney: I can't type the words that I would like to use to describe many of our legislators today. Yep. Show me the $$$
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Re: HB1208
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03/14/2015 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by John Scifres: For accuracy's sake, it doesn't "require" the Department to do the lottery, it allows it. The effect is probably the same though.
Seems like a lot of work for $3K. Anybody know where this came from? Seems odd. And why the overwhelming, nearly unanimous, agreement. Maybe I'm reading this wrong but it says that a chance to participate in the lottery is $30.00 and that 100 tags will be awarded. It doesn't say anywhere that 100 chances is all that will be sold. They could sell as many chances as people are willing to buy @ $30.00 per. If you sold 10,000 chances @ $30.00 per, that is $300,000.....
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Re: HB1208
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03/14/2015 08:03 PM
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(5) A provision stating that the season for the deer hunt for which a license is awarded under the lottery is the first week of January
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 03:37 AM
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lol
good luck finding a buck in january lol
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by John Scifres: jjas, OK, I see now.
So this is a revenue generator? I wonder if there will also be a tag fee. $30 to get in the lottery, then a tag fee on top of that seems reasonable. If it's a done deal, then let's make it pay. I say YES there is tag FEE...unless your a Lifetime lic. holder or a Landowner!
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by John Scifres: For accuracy's sake, it doesn't "require" the Department to do the lottery, it allows it. The effect is probably the same though.
Seems like a lot of work for $3K. Anybody know where this came from? Seems odd. And why the overwhelming, nearly unanimous, agreement. You are correct in that wording is "may hold a lottery" not "must hold a lottery". Director and the deer management team may decide it is not needed. By the way I also heard that the deer biologist position is still unfilled and they begin interviews next month. This legislation came from Representative Arnold who is a deer hunter. I believe he was acting on behalf of a constituent request. DNR did not comment on this one. Jack
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 08:39 AM
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Did a quick bill track on this and it is going to the Senate floor tomorrow for final reading. Once it passes it will go to Gov for signing. Not much chance of stopping it now.
Jack
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by HatchetJack: Originally posted by John Scifres: [b] For accuracy's sake, it doesn't "require" the Department to do the lottery, it allows it. The effect is probably the same though.
Seems like a lot of work for $3K. Anybody know where this came from? Seems odd. And why the overwhelming, nearly unanimous, agreement. You are correct in that wording is "may hold a lottery" not "must hold a lottery". Director and the deer management team may decide it is not needed. By the way I also heard that the deer biologist position is still unfilled and they begin interviews next month.
This legislation came from Representative Arnold who is a deer hunter. I believe he was acting on behalf of a constituent request. DNR did not comment on this one.
Jack [/b]And this is much of what is wrong with wildlife management today. Someone doesn't get their way with the DNR, they run to a legislator who then acts often without thinking or even caring how the DNR or sportsmen majority thinks or wants. It's the classic two wrongs don't make a right. But again, this is what has become of todays world and idealistic legislators who often times have little or no idea about a situation or circumstance. Simple pathetic on both accounts in my opinion.
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by HatchetJack: Did a quick bill track on this and it is going to the Senate floor tomorrow for final reading. Once it passes it will go to Gov for signing. Not much chance of stopping it now.
Jack If that's the case, I would be interested in two things.... 1. How much revenue did it generate? 2. Will the names of the "winners" be posted for the general public to see?
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Re: HB1208
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In regard to your second question, yes they would have to provide those names under the freedom of information requirement. You might have to file a request to get the names but they would have to comply, just like they do with the landowner permits.
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by delaney: In regard to your second question, yes they would have to provide those names under the freedom of information requirement. You might have to file a request to get the names but they would have to comply, just like they do with the landowner permits. I'm sure there are many people who would want to see the names on that list......
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Re: HB1208
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03/15/2015 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by jjas: Originally posted by HatchetJack: [b] Did a quick bill track on this and it is going to the Senate floor tomorrow for final reading. Once it passes it will go to Gov for signing. Not much chance of stopping it now.
Jack If that's the case, I would be interested in two things....
1. How much revenue did it generate?
2. Will the names of the "winners" be posted for the general public to see? [/b]1. No idea until such a lottery takes place. 2. See 1.
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