House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 06:53 AM
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In an 8-4 vote, the House Committee on Natural Resources approved new language for a bill that would grandfather in high-fence hunting ranches that were in business prior to 2015. But the revised bill wouldn’t allow new ones to open. http://indy.st/1zoVSHQ
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 07:01 AM
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Bastages !! So, that will mean only 4 of the canned kill farms and the rest will be "deer farms" ??
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 07:42 AM
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This is a "win" in my opinion. Certainly there remains issues and concerns, of them the interstate transport of animals, but all in all, I think this should be considered as positive of an outcome as could be expected.
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 07:44 AM
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So Rodney and friends have a monopoly to boot.
nice little reward for all his efforts...PUKE
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by delaney: This is a "win" in my opinion. Certainly there remains issues and concerns, of them the interstate transport of animals, but all in all, I think this should be considered as positive of an outcome as could be expected. I figured this was going to be the outcome... As much as I hate it, but I agree this is about as good as we are going to get... I wonder a few things myself... Do these four operations die with these people or can their children run them? If one of their "livestock" escapes and someone hits it, are they liable for damages? Is the state going to require them to carry a hefty liability policy in case of such accident happens and someone dies or needs life long care after the fact?
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/09/2015 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by jjas: So if this stays "as is", there will be 4 places to high fence "hunt" and (according to the article) approximately 400 deer farms that trade in deer, deer semen, urine, meat and antlers? This is correct. I would expect someone to try and change that.
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/12/2015 02:34 PM
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Oddly, as I watched today's action in the legislature, HB1453 was NOT brought forward for engrossment. Seems 2 amendments have been filed and rather than bring them to the House floor they delayed until next meeting.
Amendment #1 would require a $10,000 fine for each deer escape if not recovered in 10 days. It also requires sacrificing 10% of the herd for testing for CWD and TB.
Amendment #2 would require only Indiana-born deer to be used in high fence hunting preserves.
Keep writing those notes to legislators. If you have an especially effective idea to make this bill better get it out there.
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/12/2015 03:10 PM
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On further reading amendment#1 would grandfather only those preserves open in 2014. It would also delete the language restricting DNR's ability to make restrictive rules.
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/12/2015 03:17 PM
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make it as tough as they can on these dam places
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/17/2015 03:46 AM
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House moved the bill to 3rd reading with no amendments.
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/17/2015 01:55 PM
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3rd reading is about to take place if anyone's interested. The latest rumor is that the Attorney General is going to appeal the appellate court decision. Again just a rumor which could become moot if this bill goes anywhere.
Jack
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/17/2015 02:25 PM
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The House passed the bill 55-39. Hotly contested. The Senate should be interesting next month.
Jack
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/22/2015 12:09 PM
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Go to below link and go to the time of 2-01-48 on Tue,Feb 17 part 1... Interesting chatter on this Bill. http://iga.in.gov/information/archives/2015/video/house/
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/24/2015 07:47 AM
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Just sent to my Senator: Senator Waltz, I am writing to urge you to fight this canned hunting bill. Rep. Eberhart has ramrodded this bill through the House and now it is before the Senate Rules and Legislative Procedure Committee with one of its majority Members being Brent Steele, one of the bill's co-sponsors. I assume it will make it out of Committee and into your hands. I implore you to take a very close look at this bill. It purports to be a logical effort to regulate fenced deer hunting operations. In fact, it is the result of some heavy lobbying by a few (currently 4) small operations with deep pockets who have influenced Rep. Eberhart and others with thousands of dollars in contributions. As I hope you are aware, ethical hunters and the DNR as well as a variety of other groups have fought these operations for years. The Star did a very thorough series on their true nature and the risks they pose to our wildlife and the image of our hunting heritage. I hope you take the time to read this nationally recognized article by Ryan Sabalow. It can be found here: http://www.indystar.com/longform/news/investigations/2014/03/27/buck-fever-intro/6865031/ In fact, Deer Hunting Preserves are unethical and a deplorable exploitation of a natural resource. They spread disease and risk our wild deer populations. They have repeatedly been run by people who do things such as drug abnormally large buck deer for wealthy clients to "hunt" in small pens. While the bill has prohibitions on the worst of these acts, even these will not be enough to protect the Fair Chase Ethic when the deer are specifically bred for their antler size and confined to small pens until released into a larger pen to be shot. As a hunter and conservationist, I am embarrassed by the very existence of these operations and hope that you do all you can to keep this Bill from moving forward. Sincerely, John Scifres Indianapolis, IN 46227
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/24/2015 02:35 PM
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thanks John;
I would hope you give permission to others to copy adn paste your letter.
Brent is against this bill and is a solid NO.
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: House committee approves captive deer-hunt bill
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02/24/2015 02:40 PM
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For others writing to their Senators........
Please include in your email that house Rep Eberhart mis spoke as to testing of deer in deer farms and in shooting pens......... Yes they are 100% tested(if they follow the rules) but this does AFTER the deer dies! This could be AFTER Pandora(CWD) has infected Indiana
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