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Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31193
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Public hearings scheduled for proposed fish & wildlife rule changes

The Indiana Natural Resources Commission will host two hearings in June to seek public comment on proposed changes to a number of fish and wildlife rules.

The hearings will be Monday, June 10, at Mounds State Park in Anderson and Thursday, June 13, at Spring Mill Inn in Spring Mill State Park in Mitchell. Both hearings will start at 6 p.m. EDT.

Proposed rule changes for discussion include:

— Requiring hunter orange on ground blinds used during the day when hunting any species for which the hunter is required to wear hunter orange.

— Allowing the use of the draw-loc device when deer hunting.

Adding a new primitive muzzleloader season.

Adding 15 days to the deer archery season without crossbows.

— Changing the north and south zones and season dates for quail hunting.

— Changing the rabbit season to one statewide season for public and private land.

— Changing the pheasant season dates.

— Removing the peregrine falcon from the state’s endangered species list.

— Changing the limits on taking black bass on several lakes in Indiana.

— Limiting the number of lake whitefish that can be taken per day.

— Adding the round hickorynut to the list of endangered species of mussels.

The complete list is at dnr.IN.gov/fishwild/2362.htm

Those who are unable to attend the hearings can view the proposed new rule language and submit comments online at nrc.IN.gov/2377.htm. Look for the rule package titled “Fish and Wildlife Miscellaneous Rule Amendments.”

Comments can also be mailed to:

Natural Resources Commission
Indiana Government Center North
100 North Senate Ave., Room N501
Indianapolis, IN 46204

All comments must be submitted by Thursday, June 13. provided to commission members and Department of Natural Resources staff, and will be publicly disclosed and searchable on the Internet and in a paper docket as part of the final report.

The final report is expected to be presented to the NRC to request final adoption of the rule changes at its meeting on July 16.


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Some interesting changes that were originally proposed back in January now being heard. I highlighted a couple that can expect a fight.

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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31195
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Oh brother not this garbage again..... mad

Man can't people just be happy with what we got.... I honestly believe people will not be happy until the herd is completely slaughtered or their ego's are satisfied... Why in the good Lord's name do they need 15 more freaking days for?

Also, we already have a primitive season.... So why do have to have on paper when it is already there confused

mad mad mad mad mad

Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31196
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This proposal is a massive change to the Fish & Wildlife rules.


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31197
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What cracks me up are the "Einsteins" [Linked Image] that say the so called "MAJORITY" got what they wanted in Proposal #2" that was adopted.........and that the State just listens to the "MAJORITY".....and that the average hunter was represented well with the Prop #2 changes by those claiming victory for the MAJORITY and "Joe Six Pack" hunter......

Well......if the MAJORITY was represented by the States adoption of Prop #2, and the State just listens to "Joe Six Pack" which represents the MAJORITY......

........who's to blame now.

LOL!!

Ain't it a wonderful bed a few made for ya'll that led you to believe you were on the "right path" just to get crossbows with Prop #2, and throw out the ideas of those that supposedly were not representing the MAJORITY (but really were), and were representing what the IDNR wanted as their first choice with Prop #1......

You boyz ain't seen NOTHIN' yet.

Talk about winning a "battle" but losing a "war"......LOL!!!!

My favorite thing in life is watching how ACCOUNTABILITY gets played out EVERY TIME......and who starts squirmin' when it raises it's JUSTICE head..... wink


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31198
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Originally posted by Scarlett Dew:
What cracks me up are the "Einsteins" [Linked Image] that say the so called "MAJORITY" got what they wanted in Proposal #2" that was adopted.........and that the State just listens to the "MAJORITY".....and that the average hunter was represented well with the Prop #2 changes by those claiming victory for the MAJORITY and "Joe Six Pack" hunter......

Well......if the MAJORITY was represented by the States adoption of Prop #2, and the State just listens to "Joe Six Pack" which represents the MAJORITY......

........who's to blame now.

LOL!!

Ain't it a wonderful bed a few made for ya'll that led you to believe you were on the "right path" just to get crossbows with Prop #2, and throw out the ideas of those that supposedly were not representing the MAJORITY (but really were), and were representing what the IDNR wanted as their first choice with Prop #1......

You boyz ain't seen NOTHIN' yet.

Talk about winning a "battle" but losing a "war"......LOL!!!!

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— Requiring hunter orange on ground blinds used during the day when hunting any species for which the hunter is required to wear hunter orange.

Looks like when Rabbit or Bird season is in you may soon need Hunter orange on your blind to Deer Hunt!!!


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— Allowing the use of the draw-loc device when deer hunting.

If you want to use a crossbow use one.


— Adding a new primitive muzzleloader season.

If you want to hunt with a primitive m/l...you already can.


— Adding 15 days to the deer archery season without crossbows.


Allowing 15 days of bowhunting in September serves no practical purpose and IMHO, appears to be nothing more than a bone thrown to those who didn't want crossbows in the archery season and don't care for the youth season.

Am I surprised by any of this? Nope...Apparently it's "payback" time........ :rolleyes:


For those who wish to comment....please do so...

nrc.IN.gov/2377.htm

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Originally posted by jjas:
Am I surprised by any of this? Nope...Apparently it's "payback" time........ :rolleyes:

It's "payback" to a few..........it's "Correcting the Ship" if you're the MAJORITY.


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Originally posted by Scarlett Dew:
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Originally posted by jjas:
[b] Am I surprised by any of this? Nope...Apparently it's "payback" time........ :rolleyes:

It's "payback" to a few..........it's "Correcting the Ship" if you're the MAJORITY. [/b]
Of course it is..... :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Scarlett Dew:
[Q]It's "payback" to a few..........it's "Correcting the Ship" if you're the MAJORITY. [/QB]
Wait...What confused

How is it "correcting a ship" for giving 15 days to a few guys who's feelings got hurt since crossbows got added to the archery season?

Was their season adversely affected with the inclusion of crossbows? My answer is a resounding NO!

This is all about egos nothing more, nothing less.

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Originally posted by Bryan78:

This is all about egos nothing more, nothing less.
Wrong.

This is about what you want vs what someone else may want.

What is hilarious is when the "Einsteins" railroaded the IDNR in guiding our regs towards Prop #1..........it all the sudden turned into "What I Want" running the show instead of the IDNR running the show. The "Einsteins" got what they wanted........but also laid the permanent path for "What I Want" to forever be our new "drum beat" for future regs.

The Einsteins showed the world that "What I Want" can trump the IDNR. And now they are crying that their game they used may not get them what they want every time.........and the pipeline is endless for "What I Want" now from all sorts of groups.

The "What I Want" Einsteins now are calling it "payback". LOL!!!

The bed they got a few to crawl into is now coming full circle.......and now the MAJORITY is jumping on the train of "What I Want" that the Einsteins made.

Accountability in the end for what we create can be quite the "Ice Queen" cant it......

Enjoy the ride..........much more to come.........


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31205
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why dont you knock off the name calling of those you dont agree with? Im pretty sure its still against the rules here...at least for everyone else.


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put the primitive mz and the bows together after all other seasons in January their not going to kill many any way

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why dont you knock off the name calling of those you dont agree with? Im pretty sure its still against the rules here...at least for everyone else.
So........let me get this straight. The leader of the "Einstein" world and thought puts up the picture of Einstein next to his every post on his site......and a few people like you trapperdave flocked to his ( cough ) "leadership".....and ran to his logic when it got you what YOU wanted.

But now that "Einsteins" methods are turning against him and his loud crew of few......it's now "name calling".......LOL!!!

I gotta tell ya........this is pure entertainment to watch the "squirming" that I pointed to in my very first post.

Talk about predictable........


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31208
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can you argue a point without sounding like a condescending azzhat?


I dont think so.


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I'll make ONE comment here:

DEBATE THE ISSUES NOT THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. IF YOU DON"T LIKE "EINSTEIN" OR HIS CROWD TAKE IT TO ANOTHER THREAD OR I'LL CLOSE THIS ONE DOWN PRONTO.

Stick to the issues not the process or the opponents.

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I do find it ironic that some of the people supporting the new proposals (and two additional seasons) are the very same people who have vehemently complained about there already being too much pressure on the herd....

Go figure..... :rolleyes:

As I've stated in the past....why not let the current regs run for 5 seasons, gather and analyze the data and make changes @ that time (if necessary).

Regardless.....whether you agree/disagree with the proposal(s), we should let our friends/family and fellow hunters know what is being proposed and ask them to comment.

Let hunter's voices be heard.

nrc.IN.gov/2377.htm

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The proposed deer rules are simply ridiculous and petty changes to appease a very small group of hunters that feel some need to "get even". Just very, very sad! My response has been sent to the NRC for those who wish to review submitted responses.


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Jack - any details on when during the season this primitive muzzy deal would fall? Wondering if they tack it on the end of the already existing antlerless-only season created last year, would make for some cold hunting...


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The proposed rule language can be viewed online. Here is the link (scroll down toward bottom of the linked page): http://www.in.gov/nrc/2377.htm


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Jack - any details on when during the season this primitive muzzy deal would fall? Wondering if they tack it on the end of the already existing antlerless-only season created last year, would make for some cold hunting...
Here are the dates I came across....

The primitive muzzleloader season is from the first Monday in January and continues for an
additional six (6) consecutive days.

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Does adding 15 days in Sept. really matter? The primitive M/L season in Jan. going to really matter? Most will hunt as usual, kill the same amount of deer, etc. Hunt as you choose, within the law, and have fun.


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Does adding 15 days in Sept. really matter? The primitive M/L season in Jan. going to really matter? Most will hunt as usual, kill the same amount of deer, etc. Hunt as you choose, within the law, and have fun.
Yep! This^^^^^^


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Does adding 15 days in Sept. really matter? The primitive M/L season in Jan. going to really matter? Most will hunt as usual, kill the same amount of deer, etc. Hunt as you choose, within the law, and have fun.
Short answer, NO.....

However, why are these days needed for?.... The 15 days for bow is a complete waste of time since all it is for is to please a few who don't like the fact that crossbows are allowed in all of archery season and they might have to share public ground with who else.... THE PUBLIC!

As far as the primitive ML season goes..... You already have 32 days that you can use one so why on earth do you need 6 more for?

This is why this is a waste of time.... Before this last rule change, how long was it before the DNR did a major overhaul of the rules? Could we at least let this last rule change go a few years before shredding it up....geesh!

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Bryan78, very nice post!


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How about some effort on this instead of this crap... y'all can shoot each other in the azz with your crossbow any day of the week... what's more important?


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[b]Public hearings scheduled for proposed fish & wildlife rule changes

The Indiana Natural Resources Commission will host two hearings in June to seek public comment on proposed changes to a number of fish and wildlife rules.

The hearings will be Monday, June 10, at Mounds State Park in Anderson and Thursday, June 13, at Spring Mill Inn in Spring Mill State Park in Mitchell. Both hearings will start at 6 p.m. EDT.

Proposed rule changes for discussion include:

— Requiring hunter orange on ground blinds used during the day when hunting any species for which the hunter is required to wear hunter orange.

— Allowing the use of the draw-loc device when deer hunting.

Adding a new primitive muzzleloader season.

Adding 15 days to the deer archery season without crossbows.

— Changing the north and south zones and season dates for quail hunting.

— Changing the rabbit season to one statewide season for public and private land.

— Changing the pheasant season dates.

— Removing the peregrine falcon from the state’s endangered species list.

— Changing the limits on taking black bass on several lakes in Indiana.

— Limiting the number of lake whitefish that can be taken per day.

— Adding the round hickorynut to the list of endangered species of mussels.

The complete list is at dnr.IN.gov/fishwild/2362.htm

Those who are unable to attend the hearings can view the proposed new rule language and submit comments online at nrc.IN.gov/2377.htm. Look for the rule package titled “Fish and Wildlife Miscellaneous Rule Amendments.”

Comments can also be mailed to:

Natural Resources Commission
Indiana Government Center North
100 North Senate Ave., Room N501
Indianapolis, IN 46204

All comments must be submitted by Thursday, June 13. provided to commission members and Department of Natural Resources staff, and will be publicly disclosed and searchable on the Internet and in a paper docket as part of the final report.

The final report is expected to be presented to the NRC to request final adoption of the rule changes at its meeting on July 16. [/b]
BUMP....Last week for input


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Thanks for the reminder. I've already commented...
For those who haven't, please let your position be known.

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So, the meeting on July 16 is when we will know if these proposed rules are going to be adopted?

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anybody know if this is going to get approved??

Adding 15 days to the deer archery season without crossbows.

Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31227
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yes it has been approved....


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31228
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thank you

Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31229
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So we will have a Sept 15 opening day this year?

Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31230
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Originally posted by whitetaildave24:
So we will have a Sept 15 opening day this year?
As I recall from past reading, only if you're in an urban zone. Even if it is passed that date won't make this year's season start earlier. It will be in place for next year's hunting season.

Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31231
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Originally posted by 76chevy:
anybody know if this is going to get approved??

Adding 15 days to the deer archery season without crossbows.
"The final report is expected to be presented to the NRC to request final adoption of the rule changes at its meeting on July 16."

per the FIRST post in this thread!!!


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Re: Proposed F&W rule change hearings #31232
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NRC meeting agenda is posted online at: www.in.gov/nrc/2354.htm


See Agenda Item #10

www.in.gov/nrc/files/item_10_nrc_july_2013.pdf


EXHIBIT C

DIVISION OF FISH AND WILDLIFE RESPONSE

312 IAC 9-2-15, Hunter orange on ground blinds

With ground blinds becoming more common and inexpensive, the Divisions of Fish and Wildlife and
Law Enforcement believe that hunter orange requirements need to be added for occupied ground blinds
when a hunter is required to wear orange to hunt that species of wild animal. Without this, a hunter who is
required by state law to wear hunter orange can hide in a ground blind where the orange is no longer
visible, creating a safety issue. This only will apply from one-half (1/2) hour before sunrise to one-half
hour after sunset, which are the same hunting hours for deer.

312 IAC 9-3-3 and 9-3-4, Deer seasons

The Division of Fish and Wildlife is requesting that the proposed addition of the archery season from
September 15 through 30 without crossbows and the primitive muzzleloader season addition not be given
final adoption.

The archery season already runs from October 1 through the first Sunday in January. Adding an
additional fifteen (15) days simply without crossbows does the following:

- Creates confusion for hunters by having another restriction on equipment for these 15 days
- Makes it difficult to evaluate the deer rules that were just changed in 2011 and in effect for the
start of the 2012 deer season. The Division of Fish and Wildlife has plans to evaluate these rules
in 5 years, and this evaluation will not be accurate if additional seasons are added.
- Creates conflicts with small game hunters during these 15 days
- Partitions seasons even more, creating factions that could affect deer hunting in the future
- Does not help manage the deer herd; these additional days are not needed
- Creates the need for disabled hunters to have to obtain a special disability permit again to use a
crossbow. Disabled hunters will still be able to get a permit to use a crossbow during these fifteen
(15) days, creating an additional burden on Division of Fish and Wildlife staff.

The primitive muzzleloader season also creates confusion for deer hunters. Muzzleloaders can already be
used during the deer firearms season and muzzleloader season, and an additional season simply for certain
types of muzzleloaders is not necessary. It also creates confusion for deer hunters by having another
muzzleloader season that is more restrictive, creates conflicts with other hunters, and makes it difficult to
evaluate the deer rules that were in effect for the start of the 2012 deer season.

These two changes are not needed to manage the deer herd and are not supported by the majority of those
who commented on this rule package.

The Division of Fish and Wildlife is requesting final adoption to the proposed change in 312 IAC 9-3-
3(b)(5) that would allow the use of bows drawn, held, or released other than by hand or hand-held
releases during the archery season when crossbows are legal to use. This would allow the use of drawlocs
and other similar devices. With crossbows being legal during the regular archery season that starts on
October 1 as well as the urban deer season, there is no longer a need to prohibit the use of draw-locs and
other devices used on a bow that that help draw, hold, or release the bow during these seasons. Written
comments also supported this change.


Other DNR requests..

312 IAC 9-3-16, Cottontail rabbit season

While the season would no longer be open in October, the rabbit season is being extended in February by
two weeks. The change that starts the season on November 1 is needed because new research on DNR properties has shown that the rabbit breeding season runs from mid-February through September, with
some young born or in nests through mid-October. This change would also make the hunting dates on
public and private land concurrent. The starting date of November 1 would allow rabbit hunters an
additional weekend to hunt prior to the start of the deer firearms season, and would start the season after
the average first frost for 86 of 92 counties, curbing issues with parasites. The change in the starting date
of rabbit hunting to November 1 also aligns with the proposed opening of the ring-necked pheasant and
bobwhite quail seasons.

312 IAC 9-4-9, Bobwhite quail season, bag limit, and zones

By starting the south zone on November 1 and ending on January 10, the length of the south zone season
will consistently run 71 days. The earlier starting date of November 1 for both the north and south zones
would provide for a consistent statewide starting date and would also be proactive in reducing the
potential for additive mortality without reducing season length. The change in the north and south zones
fit both climate data and research/monitoring data more appropriately than the current boundary.
Furthermore, the starting date of November 1 would allow quail hunters an additional weekend to hunt
prior to the start of the deer firearms season, and would start the season after the average first frost for 86
of 92 counties.

312 IAC 9-7-6, Black bass

Scales Lake has been intensively managed and surveyed by the DNR since the early 1990’s. Numerous
Fish Management Reports have been written by the DNR’s District 6 Fisheries Biologist, with the most
recent ones being in 2006 and 2007. An angler creel survey was also conducted in 2001 which
determined angler preferences and catch. The vast majority of the anglers preferred fishing for bluegill
(60%) versus other species; hence, the fishery is being managed for the best bluegill and redear sunfish
fishing possible. To ensure good fishing for panfish, it is imperative to protect the largemouth bass
population to increase the number of predators in the lake. This would be done by switching the current
12 to 15 inch protective slot limit back to a 14 inch minimum length limit. An increase in predators will
also help control gizzard shad if they are illegally introduced as seen in other area lakes (Patoka Lake,
Lincoln Lake, Vann Park Pond). If gizzard shad are introduced and are able to take hold they would outcompete
bluegill to the point that it would ruin the bluegill fishery.


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