Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/19/2013 02:23 PM
03/19/2013 02:23 PM
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Matt Ubelhor, Don Lehe, Sean Eberhart maybe more are going to amend Brent Steele's SB 487 to include legalization of Canned Hunting. I am sure Steele will accept the amendment to his bill. He's not with us.
It seem the new Governor is on board with this, the Lt. Governor as well as she voted for it last time. So the DNR will not do anything. I would suggest if hunters care about their sport and their deer herd they contact their house reps now as well as the media and get the word out on social media as well. We have had TB in a couple of captive herds, wild deer shot by sharpshoters as a precation. We have had escaped deer get loose including one from the captive herd in PA that tested positive. So sportsmen it's in you hands not the DNR. They work for Governor Pence not you.
"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena..."
THEODORE ROOSEVELT
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
#31074
03/19/2013 04:40 PM
03/19/2013 04:40 PM
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Posts: 6,376 Indianapois, IN, USA
delaney
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Doug, it is/was only a matter of time and there is/was no way Pence would stand in the way of this. Sportsmen blew this years ago because they 1) are not really organized and 2) didn't play hardball then. Additionally, they didn't engage the "soccer mom's" into battle and that was a HUGE mistake in my opinion. Losing this also emphasizes the lack of influence that sportsmen have, including any organized effort that is in place today. Now, that said, there are a lot of guys who have put forth a lot of time and effort for a long time on this and other efforts, but unless folks really play to win, there is little point in the legislative environment that government has evolved into. If not this year, next year or the next unless the general public, not sportsmen, speak up and reject these operations.
"Fishing is like a one night stand, unless you're fly fishing, then you've encountered the romance of your life"
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/25/2013 09:51 AM
03/25/2013 09:51 AM
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HatchetJack
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Man it sure looks like the committee votes have already been bought and paid for.
Jack
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/25/2013 10:06 AM
03/25/2013 10:06 AM
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jbwhttail
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Sure looks that way Jack. Now if anyone has free time next Monday they continued the hearing until that time. They could not get thru the people who wanted to comment today. 10:30 am next Monday and room 156A I believe.
You don't have the time? please take 10 minutes then and comment to the Governor and or your Legislator bbefore the week ends.
There is a "new" twist to this, the ammendment is only for the 4 or 5 shooting preserves now in existance! No new ones could be started. I heard the Deer and Elk farmers Association is upset, they were lied to by the preserve owners.... And they said they are all honest.....lol.
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/26/2013 09:34 AM
03/26/2013 09:34 AM
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gundude
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Originally posted by HatchetJack: Man it sure looks like the committee votes have already been bought and paid for.
Jack No chit... and i have no problem telling them so to thier face... pathetic..h I dont have the time i had last year to do this stuff but ill make time and tell them what i think...face to face..no emails...!! To littlle to late i know... but man i jave had enough
Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/26/2013 09:46 AM
03/26/2013 09:46 AM
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gundude
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Originally posted by HatchetJack: Man it sure looks like the committee votes have already been bought and paid for.
Jack No chit... and i have no problem telling them so to thier face... pathetic..h I dont have the time i had last year to do this stuff but ill make time and tell them what i think...face to face..no emails...!! To littlle to late i know... but man i jave had enough
Life is hard. Its even harder If your stupid! John Wayne.
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/26/2013 11:46 AM
03/26/2013 11:46 AM
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jbwhttail
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Quite frankly folks the people who have been fighting this issue for a decade "are out of cards to play". This issue will be decided in the next couple of weeks. As one person said yesterday at the state house, "There is pressure to defeat this, but not enough.". So here is your final chance to help end canned hunting in Indiana. Below is a list of the House Reps on the committee and contact info. Email them and or call as well as the Governor, TODAY! For those of you who have committee members as your house rep you can be very influential. They will take a persons comment in "their" district very serious as YOU might vote them out of office. Be polite but firm in your comments, remind them their vote will influence your vote next election. Sean Eberhart of Shelbyville should be a main focus. If you live in Shelby county or have family and friends who you can contact please do.Sean can kill the ammendments if he wishes. Don't forget the governor! We will again be at the meeting next Monday, but I can say this one is up to you....... House Natural Resources Committee Members to call or email this week: Sean Eberhart, Chairman (R) 317-234-9499 h57@in.gov Shelbyville Rep. Lloyd Arnold, Vice Chair (R) 317-232-9833 h74@in.gov lloydbarnold@gmail.com Huntington Rep. Bob Heaton (R) 317-232-9620 h46@in.gov bob.heaton@frontier.com Terre Haute Rep. Mike Karickhoff (R) 317-234-9380 h30@in.gov Kokomo Rep. Cindy Kirchhofer (R) 317-232-9793 h89@in.gov cindy.kirchhofer@gmail.com Beech Grove Rep. Bob Morris (R) 317-232-9603 h84@in.gov Ft. Wayne Rep. Alan Morrison (R) 317-234-2993 ElectAlanMorroson@gmail.com Terre Haute Rep. Tom Saunders (R) 317-232-9850 h54@in.gov Lewisville Rep. Matt Ubelhor (R) 317-232-9863 h62@in.gov CANNED HUNTING BILL AUTHOR Bloomfield Rep. Clyde Kersey (D) 317-233-5248 h43@in.gov Terre Haute Rep. Ryan Dvorak (D) 317-234-9218 h8@in.gov South Bend Rep. Scott Pelath (D) 317-232-9629 h9@in.gov Michigan City Rep. Steve Stemler (D) 317-234-9218 h71@in.gov Jeffersonville Contact Governor Pence: 317-232-4567 Find and contact your local legislator: http://district.iga.in.gov/DistrictLookup/
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/26/2013 06:15 PM
03/26/2013 06:15 PM
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jbwhttail
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Only thing that will be interesting is the end result... Read the articles and make no comment, you get everyone else opinion!
Read DNA's post on contributions by the deer farmers to legislators............. We have the best legislators money can buy!
Expenditures Included on Report Date Disbursement Type Expenditure Type Payee Address Occupation Amount Explanation
10/12/2012 Direct Contributions Bob Cherry 3118 East 100 South Greenfield, IN 46140 - Representative $500.00
10/12/2012 Direct Contributions Bob Heaton 3255 East Dallas Drive Terre Haute, IN 47802 - Representative $1,000.00
10/12/2012 Direct Contributions Wendy McNamara 8971 Waltz Road Mount Vernon, IN 47620 - Representative $500.00
10/11/2012 Direct Contributions Brandt Hershman Post Office Box 177 Buck Creek, IN 47924 - Senator $1,000.00
10/11/2012 Direct Contributions Mike Karickhoff 2504 Greentree Lane Kokomo, IN 46902 - Representative $1,000.00
10/8/2012 Direct Contributions Carlin Yoder 59246 State Road 13 Middlebury, IN 46540 - Senator $3,500.00
10/8/2012 Direct Contributions Dan Leonard 6274 North Goshen Road Huntington, IN 46750 - Representative $1,000.00
10/8/2012 Direct Contributions Don Lehe 10644 South 100 East Brookston, IN 47923 - Representative $1,000.00
10/8/2012 Direct Contributions Mark Messmer 795 Eash Scherk Lane Jasper, IN 47546 - Representative $1,000.00
10/8/2012 Direct Contributions Matt Ubelhor 2245 West 150 South Bloomfield, IN 47424 - Representative $1,000.00
10/1/2012 Direct Contributions Bill Friend 3340 West 900 North Macy, IN 46951 - Representative $1,000.00
10/1/2012 Direct Contributions Brent Steele 714 Leatherwood Road Bedford, IN 47421 - Senator $1,000.00
10/1/2012 Direct Contributions Ryan Mishler 224 Woodies Lane Bremen, IN 46506 - Senator $1,000.00
10/1/2012 Direct Contributions Sean Eberhart 2744 E Michigan Road Shelbyville, IN 46176 - Representative $1,000.00
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/26/2013 06:17 PM
03/26/2013 06:17 PM
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jbwhttail
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You folks in Shelbyville, ask Sean about the $1000.00 dollar donation and its influence....
When science meets tradition there will be sparks.....
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Re: Canned Deer Hunt amendment
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03/28/2013 07:44 PM
03/28/2013 07:44 PM
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Posts: 3,288 PlainField, IN
BREW...
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Originally posted by jbwhttail: Quite frankly folks the people who have been fighting this issue for a decade "are out of cards to play". This issue will be decided in the next couple of weeks. As one person said yesterday at the state house, "There is pressure to defeat this, but not enough.".
So here is your final chance to help end canned hunting in Indiana. Below is a list of the House Reps on the committee and contact info. Email them and or call as well as the Governor, TODAY!
For those of you who have committee members as your house rep you can be very influential. They will take a persons comment in "their" district very serious as YOU might vote them out of office. Be polite but firm in your comments, remind them their vote will influence your vote next election.
Sean Eberhart of Shelbyville should be a main focus. If you live in Shelby county or have family and friends who you can contact please do.Sean can kill the ammendments if he wishes.
Don't forget the governor!
We will again be at the meeting next Monday, but I can say this one is up to you.......
House Natural Resources Committee Members to call or email this week:
Sean Eberhart, Chairman (R) 317-234-9499 h57@in.gov
Shelbyville
Rep. Lloyd Arnold, Vice Chair (R) 317-232-9833 h74@in.gov lloydbarnold@gmail.com
Huntington
Rep. Bob Heaton (R) 317-232-9620 h46@in.gov bob.heaton@frontier.com
Terre Haute
Rep. Mike Karickhoff (R) 317-234-9380 h30@in.gov
Kokomo
Rep. Cindy Kirchhofer (R) 317-232-9793 h89@in.gov cindy.kirchhofer@gmail.com
Beech Grove
Rep. Bob Morris (R) 317-232-9603 h84@in.gov
Ft. Wayne
Rep. Alan Morrison (R) 317-234-2993 ElectAlanMorroson@gmail.com
Terre Haute
Rep. Tom Saunders (R) 317-232-9850 h54@in.gov
Lewisville
Rep. Matt Ubelhor (R) 317-232-9863 h62@in.gov
CANNED HUNTING BILL AUTHOR
Bloomfield
Rep. Clyde Kersey (D) 317-233-5248 h43@in.gov
Terre Haute
Rep. Ryan Dvorak (D) 317-234-9218 h8@in.gov
South Bend
Rep. Scott Pelath (D) 317-232-9629 h9@in.gov
Michigan City
Rep. Steve Stemler (D) 317-234-9218 h71@in.gov
Jeffersonville
Contact Governor Pence: 317-232-4567
Find and contact your local legislator: http://district.iga.in.gov/DistrictLookup/ Bump.....
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